AT&T wants to stall ics

mendomar012 · ‎04-24-2012

AT&T wants to stall ics because ics has a setting where you can set up your device to stop using data and not go over your limit

goingocean · ‎05-08-2012

I can't imagine that to be true or else they wouldn't carry any phones with ICS, I'd think.

redpoint73 · ‎10-01-2007

goingocean wrote:

I can't imagine that to be true or else they wouldn't carry any phones with ICS, I'd think.

That's true. One X already has ICS out of the box, and Vivid has the ICS update. And its easy for AT&T to instruct phone manufacturers to lock out features to their liking. For instance, on the One X, they removed a lot of stock HTC apps (present on other versions of the One X), locked the default APN, and removed the basic feature to switch off LTE and/or 3G.

So the OP's theory is likely not true. AT&T has always been slow to release software updates. This goes years back to old Windows Mobile days, for those of you that have been around here that long.

goingocean · ‎05-08-2012

It won't matter for me soon anyway - I just found out the the international version Galaxy Note is being released in PINK!

So, I'll have the world's most perfect phone (for me) WITH the ICS update AND in PINK!

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

SkeltonGoPhone · ‎03-22-2008

My understanding of the AT&T ICS Stall is several fold:

One is that ICS is by default, rooted. AT&T is against any possibility to override their data settings. A rooted phone would allow things like tethering that AT&T wants to charge a mint for. (which I think is redundant as you pay for data, then you have to pay extra to tether?? C'mon guys....)

The other is that ICS changes the game as for what is upported, how it is supported, and how calls are handled. AT&T is usually slow in moving to such changes. It also means that they would have to deal with user issues of wanting to upgrade their phones to suport ICS.

Lastly, the memory size and core CPU power needed to run ICS would make it a high end phone. While many phones could run it, it would not run as smoothly as one would like.

Entropy512 · ‎09-02-2007

ICS is NOT rooted by default.

Strykyr · ‎10-07-2006

ICS works fine on my i717. So the phone is not the issue. I pay for tethering so thats not a valid reason. It's got all the AT&T bloatware that it came with. How bout someone that actually represents AT&T actually respond and everyone else keep their stupid hypothosis to them selves? By that I mean who cares why u THINK AT&T is milking it. You don't work for em, you don't know.

redpoint73 · ‎10-01-2007

SkeltonGoPhone wrote:

My understanding of the AT&T ICS Stall is several fold:

One is that ICS is by default, rooted. AT&T is against any possibility to override their data settings. A rooted phone would allow things like tethering that AT&T wants to charge a mint for. (which I think is redundant as you pay for data, then you have to pay extra to tether?? C'mon guys....)

The other is that ICS changes the game as for what is upported, how it is supported, and how calls are handled. AT&T is usually slow in moving to such changes. It also means that they would have to deal with user issues of wanting to upgrade their phones to suport ICS.

Lastly, the memory size and core CPU power needed to run ICS would make it a high end phone. While many phones could run it, it would not run as smoothly as one would like.

This is all nonsense. ICS is already running on a couple AT&T phones.

redhot4400 · ‎04-28-2012

Again AT&T from AT&Tfacebook wrote that the ICS update will be released in the coming months. You can read all about it here:
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=22620&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=34101&mapcode=consumer
I checked the URL n saw that the announcement was announced on March 22, 2012. There written HTC Vivid™ will be the first U.S. smartphone to receive Ice Cream Sandwich as an update and the first to be issued by a wireless carrier. It will be followed by several other AT&T devices in the coming months. Now its June 2012. Coming months is not minimum satisfactory date or time frame
Thanx in Advance

JayBird357 · ‎06-01-2012

Really guys I don't want to be negative but honestly this is typical Att behavior. Look at there customer service ratings vs other carriers. I also took Att at their word for the millionth time and and bought a note expecting ICS soon after No ICS no date no nothing so I've accepted this company for what it is. I've been played for the last time by Att and Im cancelling my two accounts after over 10 years and will be going to another carrier. I stuck around because of my unlimited data plans but that turned out to be a scam also Ill sell my note on ebay to recover some value. Enough is enough. 1st and last post.

JFizDaWiz · ‎10-27-2010

Enjoy not getting updates on time with [insert company here]

So many things go into play when pushing updates that yes it takes time. Root your phone and get it now, if you don't want to root it you don't really need ICS

“I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s positions, strategies or opinions.”

drumn_bass · ‎08-27-2008

Or buy a Google Nexus device, I believe it's the surest way to get all updates right away.

I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s positions, strategies or opinions.

JFizDaWiz · ‎10-27-2010

Its the only way to.

“I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s positions, strategies or opinions.”

redhot4400 · ‎04-28-2012

buy Nexus or still showing that ICS is building properly for Note or Skyrocket or SII divices are not The Excuses. SII and Skyrocket was in att Nov. 2011 n now June 2012. n those devices are the milestone in Smartphone world. In any type of business Customer handling and their satisfaction is the key to that business.

redhot4400 · ‎04-28-2012

T-Mobile just announced there release date for ics on the galaxy s2 on coming 11th June. check http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
When is at&t gonna get ICS for SII, Skyrocket and Note??

Thanx in Advance

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

JayBird357 wrote:
Really guys I don't want to be negative but honestly this is typical Att behavior. Look at there customer service ratings vs other carriers. I also took Att at their word for the millionth time and and bought a note expecting ICS soon after No ICS no date no nothing so I've accepted this company for what it is. I've been played for the last time by Att and Im cancelling my two accounts after over 10 years and will be going to another carrier. I stuck around because of my unlimited data plans but that turned out to be a scam also Ill sell my note on ebay to recover some value. Enough is enough. 1st and last post.

I suppose that you are not around to read this response, but I'll post it anyway. I don't understand why you would leave AT&T due to Android updates. AT&T was the first carrier to update a non-Nexus device.

I understand more than most people about wanting the latest and greatest phone technology. I also act on this; I have three phones with ICS and could have a fourth if I chose to update it. My point is that the phones work properly on Gingerbread. ICS isn't fixing an issue that prevents the phone from working as it should.

I can understand wanting the update. But any carrier that you leave for will be just as slow or even slower than AT&T. Unless you take the other suggestions of getting the international versions of the phones then using them on prepaid carriers. That's the only thing that would make sense to me.

JFizDaWiz · ‎10-27-2010

Just root your phone and get it now

“I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s positions, strategies or opinions.”

Entropy512 · ‎09-02-2007

21stNow wrote:
JayBird357 wrote:
Really guys I don't want to be negative but honestly this is typical Att behavior. Look at there customer service ratings vs other carriers. I also took Att at their word for the millionth time and and bought a note expecting ICS soon after No ICS no date no nothing so I've accepted this company for what it is. I've been played for the last time by Att and Im cancelling my two accounts after over 10 years and will be going to another carrier. I stuck around because of my unlimited data plans but that turned out to be a scam also Ill sell my note on ebay to recover some value. Enough is enough. 1st and last post.
I suppose that you are not around to read this response, but I'll post it anyway. I don't understand why you would leave AT&T due to Android updates. AT&T was the first carrier to update a non-Nexus device.

I understand more than most people about wanting the latest and greatest phone technology. I also act on this; I have three phones with ICS and could have a fourth if I chose to update it. My point is that the phones work properly on Gingerbread. ICS isn't fixing an issue that prevents the phone from working as it should.

I can understand wanting the update. But any carrier that you leave for will be just as slow or even slower than AT&T. Unless you take the other suggestions of getting the international versions of the phones then using them on prepaid carriers. That's the only thing that would make sense to me.

AT&T was the first carrier to update a non-Nexus device?

Their track record says otherwise.

Only North American carrier not to deploy Froyo to ANY devices in 2010

NINE month lag to deploy Gingerbread to the Captivate compared to I9000 - even though the Captivate had so few differences from the I9000 that it took community developers weeks to fully port the I9000 Gingerbread release.

AT&T is now at least two months behind on the I777, and so far their releases are full of bugs they have added compared to the I9100. The I9100 and I777 are 99% identical - I had I9100 ICS firmwares fully working on I777 with the exception of NFC (oh wait, it doesn't work on any released I777 firmware anyway...) within a week of kernel source release.

AT&T claims that these delays are for the purposes of quality control, but that's utter B-S. Look at the I777 - Users STILL have to use the horrifically broken UCKK6 firmware unless they void their warranty. I777 users haven't even received a bugfix Gingerbread release to undo the utter crappiness that is UCKK6.

When my contract is over, I'm switching to Straight Talk unless AT&T is offering discounts for BYOD users by then. I am NOT paying a penalty of $25+/month for a subsidy I can't use. (AT&T has not released an acceptable subsidized device since the I777, and I don't see this changing any time soon.)

21stNow · ‎07-07-2010

The HTC Vivid (an AT&T device) was the first device that I know of in the US to be updated to ICS. In keeping with the title of the thread, that is the only Android version that I was referring to.

Edit: I agree that AT&T should offer BYOD discounts.