Will HTC set the pace in 24 hours with WP7?

Paolo01 · ‎08-14-2004

Will HTC have the flagship WP7 device announced in less than 24 hours (Monday)?

I have owned HTC phones for years now, since the Startrek, and I will buy one again in a heartbeat IF it continues to be a pace setter and not a follower.

I have to admit that right now, based off of rumors, both the LG and the Samsung appear to be nicer and more powerful phones. Due later in the month the Dell offering even looks significantly nicer.

I told myself years ago that I would never own another LG phone, but that could all change tomorrow. Has HTC taken a back seat with WP7?

erichamion · ‎09-15-2010

I don't know what HTC will have to offer, but at least they're ahead of Motorola. As far as I know, there haven't been any recent announcements about any AT&T/HTC WM 6.5.3 devices.

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wingrider01 · ‎05-26-2008

erichamion wrote:
I don't know what HTC will have to offer, but at least they're ahead of Motorola. As far as I know, there haven't been any recent announcements about any AT&T/HTC WM 6.5.3 devices.

suspect thast you will find that windows mobile 6.x goes end of life by the end of the year for any new development

redpoint73 · ‎10-01-2007

Hot off the press, info has been released on the new WP7 handsets. Phonedog says they have appeared on ATT's website, but I can't find them (searched around a couple minutes, but not too intensely).

http://www.phonedog.com/2010/10/11/htc-surround-samsung-focus-lg-quantum-appear-on-at-t-s-site/

The HTC offering seems like a real oddball, with a slide-out speaker instead of a keyboard. Multimedia on a phone is nice, but to me it takes a backseat to the functionality of a keyboard.

Unfortunately, I have to say that the offerings for other carriers seem better than on ATT (at least the HTC ones). TMob gets the new WP7 version of the HD, and Sprint is getting the 7 Pro, with a 5-row sliding/tilt keyboard (successor to the Touch Pro line?).

http://www.phonedog.com/2010/10/11/htc-hd7-announced-by-t-mobile-coming-in-time-for-the-holidays/

http://www.phonedog.com/2010/10/11/htc-announces-five-windows-phone-7-devices-including-7-pro-for-sp...

wingrider01 · ‎05-26-2008

Was surprised about the Sprint offering since it has been reported that there would be no cdma Windows 7 phones until late 3rd quarter 2011

BroncsDDT · ‎10-02-2008

I'm in need of a new phone, and have used the tilt since it came out a couple of years ago. I'm going to be really bothered if HTC doesn't release a sliding qwerty phone for Windows Mobile 7, and so far, it looks like LG is the only one for a slider. Ugh. i hate sprint.

wingrider01 · ‎05-26-2008

BroncsDDT wrote:
I'm in need of a new phone, and have used the tilt since it came out a couple of years ago. I'm going to be really bothered if HTC doesn't release a sliding qwerty phone for Windows Mobile 7, and so far, it looks like LG is the only one for a slider. Ugh. i hate sprint.

the LG will be on ATT but it is not due out to till the holidays, sprint will not see it till the middle of 2011, there will be no cdma windows 7 phones on release in the US

diagoro · ‎10-10-2009

And no 4" or larger screens, all those went to other carriers? I understand the devices have been in development for a while now, and with Microsoft's restrictions, but how is it that they all seem a bit 'average upper end', WP7 versions of prior phones.

If ATT wants customers to pay that excessive 'new upgrade fee', they better come with something better than these.

gammite · ‎10-26-2006

diagoro wrote:
And no 4" or larger screens, all those went to other carriers? I understand the devices have been in development for a while now, and with Microsoft's restrictions, but how is it that they all seem a bit 'average upper end', WP7 versions of prior phones.

If ATT wants customers to pay that excessive 'new upgrade fee', they better come with something better than these.

totally agree. att missed the boat with their offerings.

the real winner is the 7pro on sprint. i guess i will be waiting in hopes of a version of that for att.

and also waiting for someone at xda to make a real rom that at least includes tethering and hopefully includes copy/paste.

UHmump95 · ‎03-18-2010

The Samsung Focus is supposed to have a 4 inch super AMOLED screen.

Why is it that AT&T refused to get a phone with a screen larger then 4 inches?

The HD7 headed to T-Mobile looks nice.

gammite · ‎10-26-2006

UHmump95 wrote:
The Samsung Focus is supposed to have a 4 inch super AMOLED screen.

Why is it that AT&T refused to get a phone with a screen larger then 4 inches?

The HD7 headed to T-Mobile looks nice.

my issue is that for some reason the next gen tilt is going to sprint. how and why does that happen?

does att even want a version of that phone. i hope so. otherwise i am hoping that the chefs at xda can port wp7 over to a tilt 2 somehow.

redpoint73 · ‎10-01-2007

gammite wrote:

my issue is that for some reason the next gen tilt is going to sprint. how and why does that happen?

does att even want a version of that phone. i hope so. otherwise i am hoping that the chefs at xda can port wp7 over to a tilt 2 somehow.

WP7 is really graphically intensive, with steep hardware specs. If it were ever ported to the Tilt2, it would be just as a toy to play with. The Tilt2 can't even handle WM6.5 without lagging, it would be a joke with WP7.

ATT has been in the habit of re-branding the Touch Pro series (Touch Pro > Fuze; Touch Pro 2 > Tilt2). So I'm hoping that ATT will have their own variant (Tilt3?) in the works, different enough to satisfy any "exclusivity" agreement on the 7 Pro, if one exists.

wingrider01 · ‎05-26-2008

diagoro wrote:
And no 4" or larger screens, all those went to other carriers? I understand the devices have been in development for a while now, and with Microsoft's restrictions, but how is it that they all seem a bit 'average upper end', WP7 versions of prior phones.

If ATT wants customers to pay that excessive 'new upgrade fee', they better come with something better than these.

What "new upgrade fee"? You mean the EARLY upgrade fee? There is no new fee added to eligible accounts.

BTW reports state that the Samsung Focus uses the exact same screen that the Galaxy S phones, which by comincience is a 4 inch screen.

What other carriers are you looking for, the only two GSM carriers are releasing phones - ATT and T-Mobile, the other carriers are cdma which is not due until the middle of 2011 or later.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/09/17/no-cdma-windows-phone-7-devices-until-2011/

cybulman · ‎05-21-2006

So out of all the W7 HTC phones which is the best with a keyboard for a buiness user?

Cy

Paolo01 · ‎08-14-2004

Well...HTC Surround. I guess I'll be joining a new forum until gen II releases. I suppose the 16G internal storage is nice, but I really do not need a speaker. I am going to go start getting the feel of the Sammy forum.

wingrider01 · ‎05-26-2008

cybulman wrote:
So out of all the W7 HTC phones which is the best with a keyboard for a buiness user?

Cy

from the short blurb on the 3 phones being released only the LG has a slide out keyboard, that is stated to not be out till the holidays

wingrider01 · ‎05-26-2008

Paolo01 wrote:
Well...HTC Surround. I guess I'll be joining a new forum until gen II releases. I suppose the 16G internal storage is nice, but I really do not need a speaker. I am going to go start getting the feel of the Sammy forum.

will get them all for development then make up my mind for my personal one. daughter wants the HTC with the speakers, wife wants the samsung becasue of the size, I am leaing to the lg for the keyboard So it loks like the personal stable of phones will have all 3 of them also.

Not sure how much longer I can wait though, my personal iphone is starting to act up and it needs a new battery.

Paolo01 · ‎08-14-2004

wingrider01 wrote:
Paolo01 wrote:
Well...HTC Surround. I guess I'll be joining a new forum until gen II releases. I suppose the 16G internal storage is nice, but I really do not need a speaker. I am going to go start getting the feel of the Sammy forum.
will get them all for development then make up my mind for my personal one. daughter wants the HTC with the speakers, wife wants the samsung becasue of the size, I am leaing to the lg for the keyboard So it loks like the personal stable of phones will have all 3 of them also.

Not sure how much longer I can wait though, my personal iphone is starting to act up and it needs a new battery.

HTC simply needs to find this guy and hire him. Then of course att would need to offer the phone, which they probably would not because it would/will take attention off of the IPhone. HTC's forthcoming crop is underwhelming.

http://designfabulous.blogspot.com/2010/07/htc-1.html

redpoint73 · ‎10-01-2007

cybulman wrote:
So out of all the W7 HTC phones which is the best with a keyboard for a buiness user?

Cy

WP7 has just been freshly unveiled yesterday, and the new phones too. Not much is known about these phones, except some bare specs. Don't think any reviewers have even received any working units to really put through the wringer. I saw a recent "hands on" video of the 7 Pro (Engadgemt maybe?), and they didn't even turn it on (just showed the physical design), so I'm thinking it was a non-working model.

So you probably have to wait a bit to see which one is really the "best".

diagoro · ‎10-10-2009

What "new upgrade fee"? You mean the EARLY upgrade fee? There is no new fee added to eligible accounts.

BTW reports state that the Samsung Focus uses the exact same screen that the Galaxy S phones, which by comincience is a 4 inch screen.

What other carriers are you looking for, the only two GSM carriers are releasing phones - ATT and T-Mobile, the other carriers are cdma which is not due until the middle of 2011 or later.

yes, I meant to say EARLY upgrade fee (which took an excessive jump from $75 to $200).....

I also had based my impression of screen size of an engadget page that had the Samsung as a 3.7. In any case, it's still a Samsung, and I have no idea why ATT can't get something over that. They are the only carrier without it (and please, no streak arguments here.....it's tired by now). In terms of "other carriers" I had included European releases as well, perhaps I should have just said phones instead of carriers.....

diagoro · ‎10-10-2009

WP7 is really graphically intensive, with steep hardware specs. If it were ever ported to the Tilt2, it would be just as a toy to play with. The Tilt2 can't even handle WM6.5 without lagging, it would be a joke with WP7.

ATT has been in the habit of re-branding the Touch Pro series (Touch Pro > Fuze; Touch Pro 2 > Tilt2). So I'm hoping that ATT will have their own variant (Tilt3?) in the works, different enough to satisfy any "exclusivity" agreement on the 7 Pro, if one exists.

Intensive? Seems most of the new releases are on par with phones that have been released the past 6 months or more. Even the HD7 appears to be a HD2 with slightly improved specs........

redpoint73 · ‎10-01-2007

diagoro wrote:

WP7 is really graphically intensive, with steep hardware specs. If it were ever ported to the Tilt2, it would be just as a toy to play with. The Tilt2 can't even handle WM6.5 without lagging, it would be a joke with WP7.

ATT has been in the habit of re-branding the Touch Pro series (Touch Pro > Fuze; Touch Pro 2 > Tilt2). So I'm hoping that ATT will have their own variant (Tilt3?) in the works, different enough to satisfy any "exclusivity" agreement on the 7 Pro, if one exists.
Intensive? Seems most of the new releases are on par with phones that have been released the past 6 months or more. Even the HD7 appears to be a HD2 with slightly improved specs........

This was in reply to a person that was hoping that WP7 would be ported to the Tilt2. With a processor little over half the WP7 requirement, I don't think there is any way the Tilt2 would be able to run the new OS. And ports never seem to run as well as the native OS of the phone. The Tilt2 is not even fast enough to run the Froyo port without tons of lag.

Besides, you can't tell the performance of a phone by the spec numbers. The new HTC G2 with the latest gen 800 MHz Snapdragon CPU out-benchmarks all the current 1 GHz Snapdragon phones. The new WP7 phones may have the same "newer" generation of Snapdragon CPU's. Plus what GPU they use makes a huge difference, as well.

Paolo01 · ‎08-14-2004

redpoint73 wrote:

diagoro wrote:

WP7 is really graphically intensive, with steep hardware specs. If it were ever ported to the Tilt2, it would be just as a toy to play with. The Tilt2 can't even handle WM6.5 without lagging, it would be a joke with WP7.

ATT has been in the habit of re-branding the Touch Pro series (Touch Pro > Fuze; Touch Pro 2 > Tilt2). So I'm hoping that ATT will have their own variant (Tilt3?) in the works, different enough to satisfy any "exclusivity" agreement on the 7 Pro, if one exists.
Intensive? Seems most of the new releases are on par with phones that have been released the past 6 months or more. Even the HD7 appears to be a HD2 with slightly improved specs........

This was in reply to a person that was hoping that WP7 would be ported to the Tilt2. With a processor little over half the WP7 requirement, I don't think there is any way the Tilt2 would be able to run the new OS. And ports never seem to run as well as the native OS of the phone. The Tilt2 is not even fast enough to run the Froyo port without tons of lag.

Besides, you can't tell the performance of a phone by the spec numbers. The new HTC G2 with the latest gen 800 MHz Snapdragon CPU out-benchmarks all the current 1 GHz Snapdragon phones. The new WP7 phones may have the same "newer" generation of Snapdragon CPU's. Plus what GPU they use makes a huge difference, as well.

Isn't the HTC7Pro the phone that this person is looking for to replace their Tilt.

Still no word on its availability on att this holiday season. It is looking like a New year phone.

http://www.htc.com/www/product/7pro/overview.html

redpoint73 · ‎10-01-2007

The 7 Pro looking very sweet in these videos:

http://dailymobile.se/2010/10/12/htc-7-pro-windows-phone-7/

Paolo01 · ‎08-14-2004

redpoint73 wrote:
The 7 Pro looking very sweet in these videos:

http://dailymobile.se/2010/10/12/htc-7-pro-windows-phone-7/

The HTC WM 7PRO looks like a fantasstic phone, IF, it gets a preocessor upgrade before release. I would guess that attt will get this phone eventually as they have carried all of the Tilts/Fuze's, but I have not seen a release date even mentioned for this model.

segues · ‎11-14-2007

In researching the phones to be released, I'm once again disappointed in AT&Ts disregard for the business user. Why not bring the HTC 7 Pro to the line-up from the beginning. I use my FUZE constantly mostly due to the ease of use of the slide out keyboard. Haven't even looked at other platforms since the Office programs are required for my business and I have to be able to move documents easily and accurately between devices. Looks like from everything I can find, that Sprint is getting this model, not AT&T. Instead, the leadership at AT&T opted for gaming and entertainment versions of the WM7 options. I've been an AT&T customer since the days of the first bag phones (back when it was Cingular in our area) and have been consistently resisting suggestions from family and friends to look at another carrier since I was sure AT&T would wise up and offer something to meet the needs of my customer group. Oh, well, guess I'll need to take the blinders of faith off and look at other companies...

wingrider01 · ‎05-26-2008

segues wrote:
In researching the phones to be released, I'm once again disappointed in AT&Ts disregard for the business user. Why not bring the HTC 7 Pro to the line-up from the beginning. I use my FUZE constantly mostly due to the ease of use of the slide out keyboard. Haven't even looked at other platforms since the Office programs are required for my business and I have to be able to move documents easily and accurately between devices. Looks like from everything I can find, that Sprint is getting this model, not AT&T. Instead, the leadership at AT&T opted for gaming and entertainment versions of the WM7 options. I've been an AT&T customer since the days of the first bag phones (back when it was Cingular in our area) and have been consistently resisting suggestions from family and friends to look at another carrier since I was sure AT&T would wise up and offer something to meet the needs of my customer group. Oh, well, guess I'll need to take the blinders of faith off and look at other companies...

If as you say sprint is getting then it will probably not hit the strees until mid 2011 - the current reports are there will be no cdma version of a windows 7 phone until then

http://advice.cio.com/aleksmatev/12740/windows_mobile_7_cdma_version_comes_later?source=rss_Blogs_an...

http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Windows-Phone-7-for-CDMA-Users-Until-2011-156983.shtml

What exactly is missing to support the business needs? We are going the complete opposite and looking at the phones replacing all the blackberries and iphones in the corproate infrastructure. The thing is we are a lot more strict on corporate phone use - no personal use unless it is a emergency, no personal apps, no music, no modifications of the phones are allowed at all. the end users sign an agreement to this, the phone is randomly audited, if there is a violation of the terms, the first time theperson is written up, the second time they are terminated.

tgj1945 · ‎11-01-2007

Below is a link to a comparison of the new Windows 7 Phone releases. Hopefully, the link will work.

http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=207502&page=1&zoomIdx=2

redpoint73 · ‎10-01-2007

Paolo01 wrote:

The HTC WM 7PRO looks like a fantasstic phone, IF, it gets a preocessor upgrade before release.

I don't think much as been revealed about the CPU yet, except that its 1 GHz? Or have you seen more detailed info?

As I indicated just a few posts before yours, the CPU MHz doensn't always tell the full story. The new generation 800 MHz Snapdragon CPU on the HTC G2 benchmarks faster than any of the current 1 GHz Snapdragon phones. Perhaps the CPU in the 7 Pro is of the same "new" generation of Snapdragon?

gmfeld · ‎03-16-2006

Like you, very disappointed in the initial lineup of ATT devices. I've been hanging on with my Fuze, with its scratched screen and dented body, waiting for the WM7 releases. The only ATT release with a slide out keyboard is the LG, which has the smallest screen (and the ugliest profile) of all the WM7 hardwares released. Ugh! ATT-you really blew it with this. I don't know if I can hang on any longer, and with my contract up don't know what I'll do.