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actually, you can download or convert tv shows via their tv shows' website and can download them into wm devices (I've done it before, but it would take a bit more work). I had a Tilt, and previously still own the 8525. (none of them crash on me either, the reason of me getting the iPhone 3G is the need to be able to show movies I've made in bigger screen and higher quality).
As for installing application, WM devices has far more applications available compared to the app store and cydia combined. WM devices does have some usage issue due to that particular reason (too many applications), which is something you will slowly see with app store applications, like many of them still not working well etc...
Tilt was great for me, I have voice turn-by-turn GPS direction, a lot of feature configured for what I need, but I just didn't like carring a huge phone with a stylus and a metal case that is really makes it look like a brick. But if the video playback were good, I wouldn't have switch toward to iPhone 3G, I needed something that would be able to showcase my work as filmmaker at the best quality I can get.
So I think my next phone would be the upcoming HTC HD or something similar with bigger screen and higher resolution.
josephz2va wrote:Only favorite on my end is the ability of importing movies and TV Shows from iTunes.Windows Mobile doesn't let you do that, nor install applications.(Yes I know you can download videos and import them onto Windows Mobile, but not TV Shows)
Message Edited by mdifilm on 10-14-2008 04:42:54 PM
with the iPhone, you can download from the app store a program called air share or there's datacase, both will allow you to use the iPhone as storage to store files (including video, etc), you have to connect it via wi-fi and transfer the files to the iPhone as it's one of the network device. But yeah, it's a storage, just not really removable.
nutcake852 wrote:How do you store anything on a 16 MB iPhone when there is no removable storage option?
Wow, I had no idea the HD has a bigger touchscreen.... That's competition that has been overlooked by the other iClones. I know people don't want phones that are too big/bulky, but I loooovveee the iPhone's huge screen. It looks like the closest-looking iClone yet, to me. We'll just have to see how the user experience is, etc. But for you as a filmmaker, I can understand why you're interested!
mdifilm wrote:actually, you can download or convert tv shows via their tv shows' website and can download them into wm devices (I've done it before, but it would take a bit more work). I had a Tilt, and previously still own the 8525. (none of them crash on me either, the reason of me getting the iPhone 3G is the need to be able to show movies I've made in bigger screen and higher quality).As for installing application, WM devices has far more applications available compared to the app store and cydia combined. WM devices does have some usage issue due to that particular reason (too many applications), which is something you will slowly see with app store applications, like many of them still not working well etc...Tilt was great for me, I have voice turn-by-turn GPS direction, a lot of feature configured for what I need, but I just didn't like carring a huge phone with a stylus and a metal case that is really makes it look like a brick. But if the video playback were good, I wouldn't have switch toward to iPhone 3G, I needed something that would be able to showcase my work as filmmaker at the best quality I can get.So I think my next phone would be the upcoming HTC HD or something similar with bigger screen and higher resolution.
josephz2va wrote:Only favorite on my end is the ability of importing movies and TV Shows from iTunes.Windows Mobile doesn't let you do that, nor install applications.(Yes I know you can download videos and import them onto Windows Mobile, but not TV Shows)
Message Edited by mdifilm on 10-14-2008 04:42:54 PM
Message Edited by cmrunner83 on 10-15-2008 09:31:34 AM
Correct, and since HD is out, that means there will be others with bigger screen available soon.
My reason, as an independent filmmaker, I do a lot of freelance, editing and directing work and many times, I have ran into the situation where I get asked at a film festival, meeting or an event what I do etc, and I can quickly and easily pull up the iPhone and show the videos I've made (a dozen shorts and 3 features, feel free to check out my latest feature at rapturethemovie.com) and then to let them see some of the stuff I do for corporates (about 15 of them on my iPhone), so that would immediately 'wow' the viewers and knowing that I 'know' what I do. About 5% of the people I've met and showed the videos, have then later hired me to do work for them.
About 5% of the people I've met and showed the videos, have then later hired me to do work for them.The iPhone, so far, is my best solution to showcasing my work without me have to carry a dvd player + a phone + gps + laptop. Of course, the bigger the screen is, the better I can use it for browsing/typing.
Since I have been using the 8525 and the Tilt and now, I haven't had the need to travel with a laptop to any trips I've made, the phones has provided me an all in one device which is cool and make travel easier.
Johnny
TheBigLebowski wrote:
The only problem with the HD is that HTC has so far said they are not preparing a US version. So you'll have a bigger screen, but the phone will only be 2G here in the states.
mdifilm wrote:
Tilt was great for me, I have voice turn-by-turn GPS direction, a lot of feature configured for what I need, but I just didn't like carring a huge phone with a stylus and a metal case that is really makes it look like a brick. But if the video playback were good, I wouldn't have switch toward to iPhone 3G, I needed something that would be able to showcase my work as filmmaker at the best quality I can get.So I think my next phone would be the upcoming HTC HD or something similar with bigger screen and higher resolution.
Message Edited by mdifilm on 10-15-2008 10:30:51 AM
If there were buttons for INDIVIDUAL email accounts right on the iPhone homescreen, the thing would be PERFECT. I miss not having the direct access to any of my 3 email account, in a single click, right from the homepage.
iPhone screen, iPhone browser, Apps and general UI, all have Windows Mobile beaten and stomped on.
Some sort of anti-fingerprint surface would be super nice to have tho!!!
Message Edited by Jameson! on 10-15-2008 12:00:30 PM
iPhone screen, iPhone browser, Apps and general UI, all have Windows Mobile beaten and stomped on.
Some sort of anti-fingerprint surface would be super nice to have tho!!!
Message Edited by Jameson! on 10-15-2008 12:00:30 PM
I just put an Invisible Shield on my iPhone and I LOVE it!
archermoo wrote:The anti-glare shield I use for the screen does a pretty good job of not showing fingerprints.
Jameson! wrote:
Some sort of anti-fingerprint surface would be super nice to have tho!!!
No finger print smudges whatsoever and no scratches. Will continue to buy Invisible Shield for my phones.
Jameson! wrote:
If there were buttons for INDIVIDUAL email accounts right on the iPhone homescreen, the thing would be PERFECT. I miss not having the direct access to any of my 3 email account, in a single click, right from the homepage.
iPhone screen, iPhone browser, Apps and general UI, all have Windows Mobile beaten and stomped on.
Some sort of anti-fingerprint surface would be super nice to have tho!!!
Message Edited by Jameson! on 10-15-2008 12:00:30 PM
I know $15 for plastic, but no more fingerprints period!
elrondius wrote:
I recently moved to an IPhone 3G 16MB from an AT&T Tilt....where has this thing been all my life?
Things I love about the IPhone over the Tilt:
1. No more lost bluetooth...I would drop my headset at least once or twice a week, I would be on a call and my Tilt would suddenly get amnesia and forget I had a hands-free device....this happened on both Tilts I owned. Since having the IPhone I haven't lost the headset at all.
2. Safari.....I love being able to see the web pages as they were meant to be instead of a butchered version like Mobile IE serves up. Also love being able to view pages by turning the phone to its side.
3. Virtual keyboard....the one on the Tilt was a joke and the pop-out keyboard was shrunk down from the 8525 and I made lots of mistakes on it, virtual keyboard on IPhone I'm 50% more accurate on it than I was on the IPhone.
4. The amazing reoccurring tasks.....my Tilts would have tasks suddenly appear in the task list that I never even started, like contacts....sometimes my Tilt would start calling people on its own, especially after I got the Mobile 6.1 update.
5. Dropped calls....my Tilt would drop calls like crazy moving from one area to another...hasn't happened with the IPhone
IPod, now IPhone...all I need is a Mac Book and the trifecta is complete!
1) You lose bluetooth A2DP, so you really have a consistent 1/2 bluetooth instead of an inconsistent full bluetooth.
2) Opera Mobile displays web pages better than Safari and has full flash support, so this argument is not only invalid but a negative for iPhone. The Fuze also lets you switch the orientation by tilting the phone, as does every phone with an accelerometer.
3) You didn't need a virtual keyboard on the Tilt because it had a real one!
4) Never had that problem, so I can't really comment for or against.
5) Weird, I've heard more complaints about dropped calls with iPhone than any other phone on the market, especially when switching between 3G and Edge...
Just being Windows advocate
1) I think Stereo Bluetooth is going to remain a niche technology, like Video Calling. I had frequent problems with my Tilt & MotoROKR S9 headphones...they were almost unusable except on the elliptical trainer (where I could keep the phone absolutely still and within a foot of the headphones).
2) Opera Mobile and Skyfire suffer from the lack of overall usability of Safari. Until HTC gets onboard with multi-touch, they'll be pale competitors. A Safari browser with Flash support will destroy anything else out there.
5) So far, my iPhone 3G is far superior to any of the 3 Tilts I had (including 2 new ones) in terms of call quality. I haven't noticed an increase or really a decrease in dropped calls, but I have a more consistent signal now.
2) Opera Mobile and Skyfire suffer from the lack of overall usability of Safari. Until HTC gets onboard with multi-touch, they'll be pale competitors. A Safari browser with Flash support will destroy anything else out there.
5) So far, my iPhone 3G is far superior to any of the 3 Tilts I had (including 2 new ones) in terms of call quality. I haven't noticed an increase or really a decrease in dropped calls, but I have a more consistent signal now.
Android wrote:
1) You lose bluetooth A2DP, so you really have a consistent 1/2 bluetooth instead of an inconsistent full bluetooth.
2) Opera Mobile displays web pages better than Safari and has full flash support, so this argument is not only invalid but a negative for iPhone. The Fuze also lets you switch the orientation by tilting the phone, as does every phone with an accelerometer.
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5) Weird, I've heard more complaints about dropped calls with iPhone than any other phone on the market, especially when switching between 3G and Edge...
Just being Windows advocate
Well, fortunately Apple has the luxury of making 1 operating system for 1 phone, Windows Mobile is used on hundreds, maybe thousands of models around the world. Some have touch screens, some don't, some have keyboards, some don't, some have memory cards, some don't, the screens range from 2 to 4 inches, QVGA, VGA, WVGA... So yes, OSX, an operating system made for one phone, is more "polished", well said. A good thing, considering you can't customize OSX at all... Have you taken a look at some of the themes people come up with for their TF3D interface? You can totally transform the appearance of the software if you really don't like the look of it, and from using it for quite a while I can tell you it's very functional and actually fun to navigate.
That's Apple's philosophy...the "walled garden", where they control the hardware, the software, and the UI. Sorry, but I just don't buy the "Windows has to support a wider range of hardware" argument. Part of the problem with Windows Mobile is that it's a desktop version of Windows for a different form factor of device. That's where TouchFlo and TF3D and the HTC UI enhancements came from...attempting to make Windows Mobile more usable and friendly. Apple developed a version of their same desktop OS with a new paradigm for the UI, and it's worked brilliantly. I've seen the videos on the Touch Pro, and it's still a step behind the iPhone in terms of total usability.
Android wrote:
Well, fortunately Apple has the luxury of making 1 operating system for 1 phone, Windows Mobile is used on hundreds, maybe thousands of models around the world. Some have touch screens, some don't, some have keyboards, some don't, some have memory cards, some don't, the screens range from 2 to 4 inches, QVGA, VGA, WVGA... So yes, OSX, an operating system made for one phone, is more "polished", well said. A good thing, considering you can't customize OSX at all... Have you taken a look at some of the themes people come up with for their TF3D interface? You can totally transform the appearance of the software if you really don't like the look of it, and from using it for quite a while I can tell you it's very functional and actually fun to navigate.
