FYI U-Verse losing FOX Jan 1, 2010

[wacky_d]

due to corporate greed uverse is losing fox network at midnight dec 31 because att does not want to pay for a new contract with fox.

[aarond23_1]

Where is your source? Let me guess you don't have one. Its Time Warner Cable that is fighting with Fox, as far as I know Uverse hasn't been mentioned?

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_14095749

[slobeavis]

My newspaper said the same things.  It was Time Warner Cable versus Fox Broadcasting.  No mention of other cable companies, Dish, DirecTv, nor U-Verse.  It's just Time Warner Cable.  They also said it shouldn't last more than a day or two but you never know.  And if all else fails, hopefully you have the antenna set up.  They also mention you should be able to see all your favorite Fox shows on Hulu.com.

Message Edited by slobeavis on 12-31-2009 12:10 AM

[skeeterintexas]

This situation affects TIME WARNER CABLE only.  All other providers are unaffected, including U-Verse.

edit to add the following from the Dallas Morning News:

 "At this time, it looks like we will not reach an agreement and our channels may very well go off the air in Time Warner Cable systems" to start the new year, said Chase Carey, News Corp.'s president and chief operating officer, in a letter to employees Wednesday.

The article continues with an interesting aside:

But Time Warner continues to insist it has the right to show Fox's Dallas affiliates, KDFW (Channel 4) and KDFI (Channel 27), and "will not drop those channels from its lineup on Jan. 1, 2010," said Gary Underwood, the cable operator's spokesman in North Texas.

That hasn't stopped KDFW from mentioning the situation at every newscast.   

Message Edited by skeeterintexas on 12-31-2009 07:03 AM

[wacky_d]

internal company document released dec 29th  ma bell has been pretty quiet about it til 2 days before cutoff

[wacky_d]

oh yeah its fox locals  fx speed nat geo fuel fox soccer channel,  just to start off with

[milkman]

wacky_d wrote:

due to corporate greed uverse is losing fox network at midnight dec 31 because att does not want to pay for a new contract with fox

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Corporate greed? Are you nuts?!

Not all service providers ( Dish, Direct, UV) pay the same for programming.  It's totally a wheel and deal situation. Negotiation (haggling) is the name of the game. If you, as a service provider, can under cut your competition and still maintain your cost/profit ratio you win. Not sure on this one but programming has got to be right up there as a top operating cost. You will see more of this in the coming year. Content providers trying to push increases to service providers. I applaud UV for not going out and signing up everyone just to fill their menu. Sit back, see what subscribers want, build a viewer base and maybe a few content providers may come your way.

I would not mind loosening a channel for several days if it would strengthen UV's bargaining stance. If you will not risk blank channels, you have NO bargaining power. Go for lower costs and hold down the increases.

Corporate greed. Of course their in it to make money. But. . . Competition  competition competition.  It benefits us all as consumers.

[gbh62]

It is Time Warner and Brighthouse Networks.  Both of their contracts expire on 12/31/09.  Uverse will have to deal with this issue when their contract expires, unless they are already paying the fee.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/ap_on_en_tv/us_cable_tv_dispute

[PowerCycle]

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wacky_d wrote:
internal company document released dec 29th  ma bell has been pretty quiet about it til 2 days before cutoff

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Are you sure about that? That's gonna suck big time if it happens.

[jp518]

So why is an internal company document being leaked on here?????  If that is even really what is going on?

[shoe]

Is wacky d even a U-Verse customer?

[tlc4texas]

According to our local networks, does not affect some local markets, mostly nationwide and only w/TWC.

[milkman]

I've found some updated info. Does not mention UV. Story is from AP Business News via North Carolina TV Station News Link .

http://www.wxii12.com/entertainment/22090666/detail.html

Edit: Ok maybe not much update but when you start messing with College/NFL Football. First I can recall getting the FCC involved (not yet anyway) in a pricing dispute. Let the market take care of it's self.

Message Edited by milkman on 12-31-2009 09:27 AM

Message Edited by milkman on 12-31-2009 09:29 AM

[choco1122]

Time Warner Cable is the only one I have heard about. There was mention of other companies dealing with the same thing in the future, but not right now.

[Tito_1]

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shoe wrote:
Is wacky d even a U-Verse customer?

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Probably not.  He / She just registered today. 

Probably has been planted here by Time Warner, I wouldn't doubt it.

Message Edited by Tito on 12-31-2009 11:50 AM

[DAMOSPORT]

I'd be soooooo angry if this is true and i wake up tomorrow morning to find FOX has been removed.....my wife would cancel U-Verse in a second if it does happen because all her favourite shows are on that station.....Bones, House etc.....i have a feeling it's only gonna disappear on Time Warner though.....(fingers crossed)

[jhibbs1009]

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choco1122 wrote:
Time Warner Cable is the only one I have heard about. There was mention of other companies dealing with the same thing in the future, but not right now.

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Just because they are the only ones that went public with this doesn't mean they are the only company having issues with FOX right now.  Also TWC is also the bigger story due to the larger subscriber base that would be affected.

[AmishGuy91]

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jhibbs1009 wrote:

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choco1122 wrote:
Time Warner Cable is the only one I have heard about. There was mention of other companies dealing with the same thing in the future, but not right now.

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Just because they are the only ones that went public with this doesn't mean they are the only company having issues with FOX right now.  Also TWC is also the bigger story due to the larger subscriber base that would be affected.

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Nice try but if another TV provider was having the same contract dispute Time Warner would be mentioning it to prove that FOX is the bad guy in this situation.

[SomeJoe7777 ACE - Geek]

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wacky_d wrote:
due to corporate greed uverse is losing fox network at midnight dec 31 because att does not want to pay for a new contract with fox.

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   You sure are wacky, wacky.

[zelmoziggy]

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wacky_d wrote:
due to corporate greed uverse is losing fox network at midnight dec 31 because att does not want to pay for a new contract with fox.

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OH, NO!!  Thanks for the warning, wacky_d. I'm definitely going to replace U-verse immediately and not wait a few hours to see if what you say is true.

[sportsman_1]

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wacky_d wrote:
due to corporate greed uverse is losing fox network at midnight dec 31 because att does not want to pay for a new contract with fox.

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This is false information.

I just posted the article in the lounge. It's Time Warner cable who may lose FOX.

Here you can read it here:

 http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/30/news/companies/time_warner_cable_fox_kerry/

[RCSMG ACE - Master]

The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!

[Blizzard_1]

I'm sure AT&T will clear this topic up soon. 

[erazoner]

We plan to be watching Fox News tonight. If it goes dark at midnight we'll put the cork back in the champagne and switch to **bleep** Clark.

Edit: Man, I can't believe they'd censor a celebrity's name.

Message Edited by erazoner on 12-31-2009 04:00 PM

[jhibbs1009]

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AmishGuy91 wrote:

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jhibbs1009 wrote:

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choco1122 wrote:
Time Warner Cable is the only one I have heard about. There was mention of other companies dealing with the same thing in the future, but not right now.

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Just because they are the only ones that went public with this doesn't mean they are the only company having issues with FOX right now.  Also TWC is also the bigger story due to the larger subscriber base that would be affected.

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Nice try but if another TV provider was having the same contract dispute Time Warner would be mentioning it to prove that FOX is the bad guy in this situation.

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Considering that AT&T and Fox are engaged in multiple sponsorship deals for programming shown on the Fox family of networks, it would benefit both sides to  keep quiet on this and keep negotiating in good faith.

[choco1122]

There is no way this would have stayed quit all the way until less than 24 hours before. They are not even sure yet if Time Warner is losing Fox. They are still in negotiation, and they are eventually going to pay up anyways due to how many customers they could potentially lose not having any Fox programming.

[Bogie1_1]

Hey Wacky_d, did some one wack you with their weed wacker?

[sharksfansd]

It is great that anyone can post here, but the OP is .

No credibility with what is being said unless there is a source.

[mibrnsurg ACE - Geek]

He may not have phrased it quite right.  All the non O & O Fox affiliates are renegotiating their contracts

and may lose Fox programming after midnight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Television_Stations#List_of_Fox_owned-and-operated_stations

Chris

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Message Edited by mibrnsurg on 12-31-2009 08:07 PM

[siouxmoux]

Well here in san jose, ca all of the SD/HD Fox Corp. Television Networks that ATT UV carrys   are all showing up, Now in a perfect world, ATT would would drop Fox News Channel SD/HD and replace it with FSC HD!