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03-20-2010 12:37:32 PM
I know there are only a select few that have access to both (and being in a Qwest area, I have access to neither/nor), but I figure we should compare the two...
FiOS advantages
-Public access programming
-Digital subchannels
-MLB Network, NBA TV, Tennis Channel, League (MLB/NBA/NHL) PPV Packages
-Ability to watch more than 2 HD Channels in the same house
U-Verse advantages
-More timeshifting (West coast feeds of TBS, TNT, et. al. go 'national')
-More national RSNs (e.g. if U-Verse ever got to Buffalo, they would likely be carrying STO and FSN Pittsburgh, whereas FiOS doesn't right now)
-Whole Home DVR
I'm sure the rest of you can add more.
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03-20-2010 12:44:32 PM
Uverse advantage: IPTV, multicasting , unicasting, instant channel changes
Fios disadvantage: QAM tuner system just like cable systems, a delay for channel changes ![]()
Chris
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Please NO SD stretch-o-vision or 480 SD HD Channels
1-800-983-2811 to avoid Mr. Voice Recognition
I Call It Like I See It, Your Results May Vary, In My Humble Opinion
Simply a U-verse user, nothing more

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03-20-2010 01:10:34 PM
mibrnsurg wrote:Uverse advantage: IPTV, multicasting , unicasting, instant channel changes
Fios disadvantage: QAM tuner system just like cable systems, a delay for channel changes
Chris
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IPTV, multicasting, and unicasting may be theoretical advantages, but what do they enable U-verse to do that FIOS doesn't do?
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03-20-2010 01:12:17 PM
astrosfan9 wrote:
I know there are only a select few that have access to both (and being in a Qwest area, I have access to neither/nor), but I figure we should compare the two...
I'm sure the rest of you can add more.
We should? Why?

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03-20-2010 01:13:51 PM
zelmoziggy wrote:
mibrnsurg wrote:
Uverse advantage: IPTV, multicasting , unicasting, instant channel changes
Fios disadvantage: QAM tuner system just like cable systems, a delay for channel changes
Chris
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IPTV, multicasting, and unicasting may be theoretical advantages, but what do they enable U-verse to do that FIOS doesn't do?
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Chris
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Please NO SD stretch-o-vision or 480 SD HD Channels
1-800-983-2811 to avoid Mr. Voice Recognition
I Call It Like I See It, Your Results May Vary, In My Humble Opinion
Simply a U-verse user, nothing more

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03-20-2010 01:19:30 PM
FIOS better HD picture and sound
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03-20-2010 01:20:37 PM
Uverse - no pesky Brazilian language channels ![]()

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03-20-2010 01:23:49 PM
Uverse is available in my area. ![]()

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03-20-2010 02:45:35 PM
zelmoziggy wrote:
mibrnsurg wrote:Uverse advantage: IPTV, multicasting , unicasting, instant channel changes
Fios disadvantage: QAM tuner system just like cable systems, a delay for channel changes
Chris
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IPTV, multicasting, and unicasting may be theoretical advantages, but what do they enable U-verse to do that FIOS doesn't do?
Of many various reasons, the one I like the best and see the most promise for is the
"applications." The structure of the system with IPTV (versus QAM/Cable ala FIOS) is that the STBs and DVRs don't have to powerful to provide powerful applications; applications are done remotely back at the local VHO and the STB/DVR accesses them like a remote desktop. This provides virtually unlimited application type and implementation ...
It also permits a wide variety of applications without significant modification of the RG, DVR, or STB hardware, firmware, or software.
At some point, audio and video quality will be essentially identical across all systems of all vendors. The "extras" beyond commodity video and audio will be the differentiator, and U-Verse (and other IPTV systems) are the best suited for setting the pace and driving the IWBC ("It Would Be Cool") features.
Too many people get lost in the fiber / copper aspects of delivery. The bottom line is having enogh to do the intended job, and U-Verse (in the overwhelming majority of cases) absolutely does. Fiber has its own set of headaches from both the provider and subscriber ends of the stick.
I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s positions, strategies or opinions.
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03-20-2010 02:58:50 PM
I agree with ScottMac. I like the new IWBC updates over the last year.
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03-20-2010 03:45:25 PM
mibrnsurg wrote:Uverse advantage: IPTV, multicasting , unicasting, instant channel changes
Fios disadvantage: QAM tuner system just like cable systems, a delay for channel changes
Chris
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____________________ Please NO SD stretch-o-vision or 480 SD HD Channels
1-800-983-2811 to avoid Mr. Voice Recognition
I Call It Like I See It, Your Results May Vary, In My Humble Opinion
Simply a U-verse user, nothing more
In the time I had FiOS, channel changes were instant and just as fast as U-verse. So don't spout off nonsense. There is nothing inherently wrong with QAM itself anyway.
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03-20-2010 04:00:04 PM
Not from what I've seen on the Fios forums. ![]()
Chris
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1-800-983-2811 to avoid Mr. Voice Recognition
I Call It Like I See It, Your Results May Vary, In My Humble Opinion
Simply a U-verse user, nothing more

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03-20-2010 05:32:42 PM
If it took 10 seconds each time I changed channels and got a pristine HD picture with FIOS I would be ecstatic. Who cares how long it takes to change channels if you are getting an inferior picture?
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03-20-2010 05:46:21 PM
I find it difficult to believe after your complaint about the number of keypresses it takes to check the space remaining on the DVR that you would be satisfied with waiting 10 seconds when changing channels no matter the PQ.

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03-20-2010 05:52:55 PM
callmeox wrote:
I find it difficult to believe after your complaint about the number of keypresses it takes to check the space remaining on the DVR that you would be satisfied with waiting 10 seconds when changing channels no matter the PQ.
I dont recall complaining about that but it sounds like me. I am techie so automating processes is a way of life for me.
But honestly, my Blu-Ray is slow to load movies, but once its playing....its pure pleasure. Trust me I could wait 10 seconds between each channel.
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03-20-2010 05:59:41 PM
My mistake...that was another poster. Oldtimers disease rears its head agian. ![]()

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03-20-2010 09:18:32 PM
milkman wrote:
I agree with ScottMac. I like the new IWBC updates over the last year
Not trying to be a wise guy, but can you tell me what are the IWBC updates over the last year? Are you talking about Phase II? thanks
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03-21-2010 06:10:44 AM
ScottMac wrote:
zelmoziggy wrote:
mibrnsurg wrote:Uverse advantage: IPTV, multicasting , unicasting, instant channel changes
Fios disadvantage: QAM tuner system just like cable systems, a delay for channel changes
Chris
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IPTV, multicasting, and unicasting may be theoretical advantages, but what do they enable U-verse to do that FIOS doesn't do?
Of many various reasons, the one I like the best and see the most promise for is the
"applications." The structure of the system with IPTV (versus QAM/Cable ala FIOS) is that the STBs and DVRs don't have to powerful to provide powerful applications; applications are done remotely back at the local VHO and the STB/DVR accesses them like a remote desktop. This provides virtually unlimited application type and implementation ...
It also permits a wide variety of applications without significant modification of the RG, DVR, or STB hardware, firmware, or software.
At some point, audio and video quality will be essentially identical across all systems of all vendors. The "extras" beyond commodity video and audio will be the differentiator, and U-Verse (and other IPTV systems) are the best suited for setting the pace and driving the IWBC ("It Would Be Cool") features.
Too many people get lost in the fiber / copper aspects of delivery. The bottom line is having enogh to do the intended job, and U-Verse (in the overwhelming majority of cases) absolutely does. Fiber has its own set of headaches from both the provider and subscriber ends of the stick.
This is debatable. Highly debatable... The guy living "one house too far" from the VRAD to get 2HD streams would probably disagree, not to mention the guy "one house too far" to even get the service.
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03-21-2010 06:38:35 AM
smcleod1106 wrote:
milkman wrote:
I agree with ScottMac. I like the new IWBC updates over the last year
Not trying to be a wise guy, but can you tell me what are the IWBC updates over the last year? Are you talking about Phase II? thanks
I was talking about applications; stuff like the sports (news, cartoon) multiviews, U-Bar, the Santa Tracker ... stuff like that.
I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s positions, strategies or opinions.
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03-21-2010 06:48:30 AM
Fios has a sucky contract.
way more international channels.
ScottMac wrote:
Too many people get lost in the fiber / copper aspects of delivery. The bottom line is having enogh to do the intended job, and U-Verse (in the overwhelming majority of cases) absolutely does.
I disagree... Internet upload speeds are a joke. Only 2 hd streams sucks when you have 3 hd tvs. imo more compression is a band-aid not a solution
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03-21-2010 07:06:21 AM
smcleod1106 wrote:
milkman wrote:
I agree with ScottMac. I like the new IWBC updates over the last year
Not trying to be a wise guy, but can you tell me what are the IWBC updates over the last year? Are you talking about Phase II? thanks__________________________________________________
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I was thinking Media Share, Caller ID on Tv. I also like having my media package (Phone, Tv, Internet) controlled from one website. Uverse Central.
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03-21-2010 08:20:56 PM
I don't think we need to compare U-verse vs FIOS since 99% of people who visit this board are U-verse subscribers and might not get FIOS available in their area in their lifetime. Even if U-verse is worse than FIOS, so what? There is nothing I can do to switch between those 2 services. I only can go between OTA/Comcast and U-verse, nothing else is available in my area (I don't count satelite TV)
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03-22-2010 03:38:59 AM
Zoly wrote:I don't think we need to compare U-verse vs FIOS since 99% of people who visit this board are U-verse subscribers and might not get FIOS available in their area in their lifetime. Even if U-verse is worse than FIOS, so what? There is nothing I can do to switch between those 2 services. I only can go between OTA/Comcast and U-verse, nothing else is available in my area (I don't count satelite TV)
Good answer Zoly. I have U-Verse, TWC or Satellite available where I live. I've had the other options and wasn't pleased with them. So far I've had U-Verse for 6 months now and I've been extremely happy with it.

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03-22-2010 08:34:49 AM
Brianbastos wrote:FIOS better HD picture and sound
Brian .. what do you base your claim on? You live in So. Fla and are a DISH subscriber (per your own previous rants) .. how do you compare FIOS to UV? Unless you can have both services with identical setups on the same brand TV, you can't do a comparison. All you can base your claim on is what folks post or you read... try reading JD POWERS .. from what I can tell, folks are more impressed with UV than FIOS. I honestly can't say as FIOS is not in available in my area and if it was, I don't know if I would change.
It's just TV folks.
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03-22-2010 08:45:14 AM
Zoly wrote:I don't think we need to compare U-verse vs FIOS since 99% of people who visit this board are U-verse subscribers and might not get FIOS available in their area in their lifetime. Even if U-verse is worse than FIOS, so what? There is nothing I can do to switch between those 2 services. I only can go between OTA/Comcast and U-verse, nothing else is available in my area (I don't count satelite TV)
I only have the option of switching back to Charter!! ![]()
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03-22-2010 05:57:04 PM
Dead Terrorist wrote
Brian .. what do you base your claim on? You live in So. Fla and are a DISH subscriber (per your own previous rants) .. how do you compare FIOS to UV? Unless you can have both services with identical setups on the same brand TV, you can't do a comparison. All you can base your claim on is what folks post or you read... try reading JD POWERS .. from what I can tell, folks are more impressed with UV than FIOS. I honestly can't say as FIOS is not in available in my area and if it was, I don't know if I would change.
It's just TV folks.
DUDE YOU ARE SO FUNNY
, you judge me, and you don't even know me, my brother lives in San Diego, CA, and he is very impressed with Verizon Fios, I trust my brother, he knows both UVERSE and Fios, second, I'm switching to DISH in April, I'm still stuck with UVERSE, since my bill is bundled up with internet and voice, and I use internet, WHY AM I EXPLAINING MY SELF TO YOU? Again I say, ATT SHOULD USE YOU GUYS ON THEIR TV ADS, AS ATT UVERSE POSTER BOYS, YOU AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM, THAT GET ANGRY, WHEN WE SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT UVERSE. YES its just tv, it's not cheap tv either..............................whoever wrote no pesky brazilian channels, well, NO WORDS FOR YOU!![]()
This is a forum of discussion, none of you work or represent ATT, so stop bashing us ATT critics!!!!
I'm just saying!!!
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03-23-2010 10:28:08 AM
wow Brian, you seem a bit worked up
"Brian .. what do you base your claim on? You live in So. Fla and are a DISH subscriber (per your own previous rants) .. how do you compare FIOS to UV? Unless you can have both services with identical setups on the same brand TV, you can't do a comparison. All you can base your claim on is what folks post or you read... try reading JD POWERS .. from what I can tell, folks are more impressed with UV than FIOS. I honestly can't say as FIOS is not in available in my area and if it was, I don't know if I would change."
Where in this paragraph were you being "judged"? Some valid points WERE being made - the only true way to compare
two providers would be identical setups/same eyes/ same ears on the same location/TV at the same time. Do you think that the services in San Diego & Florida would be completel identical? Just sayin'...
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03-23-2010 01:39:31 PM
Brian.. you are really getting old.. you have repeatedly spewed all this negative stuff about UV.. how you have switched to DISH yada yada yada.. the only judgment I have of you is "Why are you wasting your time visiting the forum of a product you have already made a decision on?" It make one question what is your motive?
For those of us who visit this forum to try and help our peers are fed up with your rants.. no one is "judging" you, we're just tired of listening to you. You make illogical claims, make personal attacks when challenged and list goes on...
Move on Dude.. life is too short.
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03-23-2010 03:16:44 PM
I understand that you may dislike Uverse and that is perfectly fine but the main reason for this forum is to help each other and help our peers fix a problem if they might have something wrong that someone else has experienced already. I mean if you have such a problem with it and have already made up your mind to switch then you don't have any reason to comment on these unless you hahve a question in regards to something about your service until you are able to change like you want to. This forum isn't here to bash Uverse it's here to ask questions or get help for those of us who need it... Hope when you get to switch you enjoy your new service and it is everything that you say and hope it to be.
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03-23-2010 03:42:11 PM
I got 2 kudos, people must agree with me!!








