spd2demun wrote:I didn't do a search, but I heard on TV that our govt. (I think) is planning a 15 cent tax for all states. That will put a dent in people's wallets, but won't stop them from driving. I predict holdups at gas pumps.
But I guess the need to stimulate the economy (get more tax $).
Electric/hybrid vehicles aren't the answer either as you'll be needing charging stations, and I'll guarantee you those won't be free! Think they have a few in Houston now.
Will take a look at prices this afternoon, doubt they've gone down.
I can see the issue with electric cars, being as you said, you'll be needing a charging station eventually (and they are almost impossible to find), but why would hybrid cars need charging stations? Of course there are plug-in hybrid vehicles that you can charge, but the majority of hybrids charge using the gas engine as a generator, and with Toyota hybrids (and maybe other car companies as well, like Ford) use HSD (Hybrid Synergy Drive) technology allowing the friction of the brake to create power to charge the battery
Of course a tax increase on gas wouldn't be fun to us hybrid owners either, i'm used to filling up my car for around $20~$25
Gas running $2.95/gal here.
Phil, may have mentioned this before but you can barely find gas which isn't really gasohol (10% ethanol) here in Central Ohio. And it's no wonder because found this statement from the Ohio fuel tax laws: "Dealers are refunded 10 cents per gallon of each qualified fuel (ethanol or methanol) blended with unleaded gasoline."
I have a friend who bought a small Ford Ranger pick-up truck about 10 years ago which could also burn E85 fuel ("85% denatured fuel ethanol and gasoline"). This fuel was much cheaper than gas but you could/can hardly find it anywhere. Don't believe E85 fuel ever became popular like they thought it would. Has a lot less power than regular gas, or 10% ethanol gasohol.
And now they may propose to sell E15 which is 15% ethanol. According to the below link only cars made after 2007 can burn it and more expensive to use/make. Probably won't take off any more than E85 did in my opinion.
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/will-the
Wow, is Kerosene high and they always jack up the price when it gets cold. Paid $3.60/gal + $.28 state tax for a total of $3.88/gal. It cost $27.16 for 7 gals. Have no idea why they can't add the State tax in at the pump but you always have to pay inside where it's added to the total.
I only burn my kero heater in the basement when we reach near single digit temps. Almost have to since wood stove doesn't put any heat down there. Too many water pipes plus work a lot down there. Really wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to run a power sucking electric heater down there? Bet it wouldn't put out as much heat but it may be cheaper than 1 1/2 gals kero per 24 hours ($5.82). I do let the heater go out but it puts a lot of fuel stink when it goes out.
Kind of reminds me of sitting still on a jet plane and you get a strong whiff of kerosene. Kero is one of the main ingredients in jet fuels. If they raise the price of kero in the winter/cold weather wonder if this isn't adding to the current high costs of air travel, besides being typically high during the holidays?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel
Every time I see this fuel thread it reminds me when I worked at a local gas station near where I lived. I was 16 in 1966 and gas was 26 cents per gallon. Unbelievable.
Uh oh.
I knew they were going up, but missed a chance at $2.78 two days ago. Now $2.85+
I recently read an article where the former head of Shell Oil Co. predicted the cost of a gallon of gas in the US to be $5.00 by the year 2012.
Yeah, I've read the same dismal predictions for 2012 where oil will hit $120/barrel.
Monday almost all stations here raised reg gas prices from $2.99 to $3.19. 
Now wonder if they are going to have their usual Thurs price increase on top of the above huge increase? Wouldn't doubt it just to ream the New Year's weekend travelers and gouge as much as they can before years end. And a great welcome for the new year; not!
I paid $3.14 this morning. Our work vehicles (for out of town site visits) require E85 when possible. We have an E85 pump at a station about 1 mile from our house.
After the fuel price increases get into full affect, they will be followed by price increases for all of the other necessities of life as we know it.
Which is part of the reason that the economy has taken so long to recover. Gas prices start going up again, the recession will linger and start heading back towards depression. Do we really need that mess again?
RCSMG wrote:After the fuel price increases get into full affect, they will be followed by price increases for all of the other necessities of life as
But it brings in more tax money (the REAL reason).
Yeah, they've already commented about less revenue here from gasoline, and talking about 14 cents per gallon raise!
Most of Houston has had mandatory 10% Ethanol in gasoline for years, and it does cut down on mpg. So I go as fast as I can on the freeway to get my $s worth.
I really think politicians need to get decreases in pay and perks so the rest of us can afford to live.
spd2demun wrote:
Most of Houston has had mandatory 10% Ethanol in gasoline for years, and it does cut down on mpg.
Believe Phil's neighbor who lives across the street, and drives a Crown Vic, wants to meet you someday Spd.
This sure isn't good news about the Alaskan pipeline being clo$ed for a leak.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40982943/ns/business/
Thanks again BP!
Be sure and read the 1st comment following the news story in the link. 
Just heard on the news this evening, Chicago now has the highest gas prices in the nation.
$3.13 in Central Ohio. As soon as the pipeline leak story hit the news the prices went way up. I'm sure they didn't pay higher prices for the gas in those full underground storage tanks.
I'll have to double check the prices Dave. To tell you the truth the price I quoted ($3.13) was 2-3 days ago. Hope they are also dropping here.
Seems like whenever there is a bad news story about oil/gas prices going up (eg. pipeline leak) we fear it will cost us a lot more. And indeed the stations prey on these fears and immediately jack up the prices which we expect. Then the prices level off, but not back down to where they were, when it's found the impact may not be immediate. It's a vicious circle and the stations/oil companies have us just where they want us.
dhascall wrote:I checked Gas Buddy around Cols and see that the best prices are way up North, around Westerville / Polaris Road - $2.89. Our lowest prices around here are similar with 2.84 the lowest but that is 25 miles away, in Franklin.
Heck of a lot better than the 3.35 I'm paying.
jfw wrote:
dhascall wrote:I checked Gas Buddy around Cols and see that the best prices are way up North, around Westerville / Polaris Road - $2.89. Our lowest prices around here are similar with 2.84 the lowest but that is 25 miles away, in Franklin.
Heck of a lot better than the 3.35 I'm paying.
thats to go with ur new tax codes ..
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randyl wrote:
jfw wrote:
dhascall wrote:I checked Gas Buddy around Cols and see that the best prices are way up North, around Westerville / Polaris Road - $2.89. Our lowest prices around here are similar with 2.84 the lowest but that is 25 miles away, in Franklin.
Heck of a lot better than the 3.35 I'm paying.
thats to go with ur new tax codes ..
Thanks for reminding me.
Yeah, I know about it, but normally gas up near the 'hood where I know the prices are consistently lower. I will have to look for you there.
