Here's why the Lumia 900 can be a LOSER with Outlook Exchange

[TollFreeCaller]

Just another example in the long list of stupid things Microsoft does:

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/how-to-install-custom-ssl-certificates-on-wp7
There are a lot of smaller companies out there that don’t really have a need to purchase public SSL security certificates just for their handful of mobile Exchange users. In those cases, usually you create a custom SSL security certificate and manually install it on the individual mobile phones or mobile computers that might need to securely access Exchange from outside of the internal network.

If you try to set up an Exchange email account on Windows Phone 7 without a public security certificate, it won’t be able to easily set up your email account.

The result? It's significantly easier to do this with your iPhone or Android. 

[TollFreeCaller]

I should point out you need to manually send the entire certificate path for the Lumia 900. Just the DER certificate is not enough.

My solution was to go to the Exchange server web location and export the full path certificate. 

Then, I used gmail to send it to myself.

Downloaded certficate

Rebooted phone.

Email works.

That brings me to a new complaint - I want everything separated via the folders created. In this version of Windows it piles up all the new emails in a list. This is a poor solution for the first look. I want to see the folders FIRST.

Touchdown for Android does this significantly better than Windows Outlook performs.

I don't understand why Microsoft thinks it is a good idea to try and completely $&(@ off a user actually trying to use their OS. Well, I'm PO'd and like going back to Android because I'm just not putting up with their garbage.

Too bad for Nokia. Great phone design. Nice quality.

[mpdailey]

Just an FYI, GoDaddy sells SSL certificates for $12.95. I believe you don't even need to import the cetificate.

[pkmccarthy]

so, you want folders first OR are you saying you want inbox rules that push to folders?

not sure I understand your complaint...

[johninsj ACE - Wizard]

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TollFreeCaller wrote:

That brings me to a new complaint - I want everything separated via the folders created. In this version of Windows it piles up all the new emails in a list. This is a poor solution for the first look. I want to see the folders FIRST.

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I don't get it - are you talking about the unified inbox? The "email" view is just INBOX (or all inboxes, if you've grouped them) - then you tap ... and pick folders to get at the other folders. Just like... wait for it.... iPhone.

Microsoft isn't trying to copy Android, or give you a desktop experience.

[TollFreeCaller]

Not looking for the iPhone experience. Never had one.

I liked the Touchdown service for Android better with folder management.

Mostly, I like the phone. Lack of file transfer and inability to put on some apps is going to cause me to send it back and go back to Android I think.

[johninsj ACE - Wizard]

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TollFreeCaller wrote:

Not looking for the iPhone experience. Never had one.

I liked the Touchdown service for Android better with folder management.

Mostly, I like the phone. Lack of file transfer and inability to put on some apps is going to cause me to send it back and go back to Android I think.

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So, go with the OS that provides the experience you want, don't try to make every OS match that one experience... in other words I agree that if you prefer android, you should be on android.

[TollFreeCaller]

John,  You have to admit that it is rather ironic a third party app seems to handle mobile outlook with some nicer features than Microsoft handles it themselves.

Just a few lack of freedoms with this phone. But I appreciate the tiles design. Mostly I can navigate with this phone easily with one hand and mostly one finger. 

[johninsj ACE - Wizard]

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TollFreeCaller wrote:

John,  You have to admit that it is rather ironic a third party app seems to handle mobile outlook with some nicer features than Microsoft handles it themselves.

Just a few lack of freedoms with this phone. But I appreciate the tiles design. Mostly I can navigate with this phone easily with one hand and mostly one finger. 

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Not ironic at all - wp7 is *still* fairly new, *and* has the goal of ease of use over powerful features at least at this point. I've used many mobile OSes all the way back to Newton and the original PalmOS (you know, when it was US Robotics.) There is no single "right" way of doing things - if one OS doesn't work for you, try another. But that doesn't make the one that wasn't right for you "wrong." "Freedom" also means "you have to tweak it to use it" - which many people just aren't interested in doing.