I am about ready to "hit the hay" as it is almost 10:00 here (
), but how could I ignore this thread? It's my own personal "kudo" party in honor of my achievements! Way to throw an awesome surprise party, here, RicoLX! It's going to be just like Dcookie's anniversary party all over again!
Thanks! 
Remember that Wild Banchi... 1993-2010 
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Did sombody say PARTY?!?!?!?!
ghostryder wrote:Did sombody say PARTY?!?!?!?!
Most definitely, ghostryder!
Once again, I wanted to thank you for your time, RicoLX. It was great of you to take some time out of your probably busy day to gather another little party here in my honor. 
Those emoticons make it even better...
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Wild Banchi wrote:
ghostryder wrote:Did sombody say PARTY?!?!?!?!
Most definitely, ghostryder!
Once again, I wanted to thank you for your time, RicoLX. It was great of you to take some time out of your probably busy day to gather another little party here in my honor.
Hey Wild Banchi , the Ghostryder KNOWS how to put together a party! He brought the Jams as expected (Click the upper left pic. While its loading in another tab, navigate back here to watch the party in action.) Its time to CELEBRATE ! ! ! thats ME in the upper right pic (laid out on the floor!! lol). I wonder if he DCookie's gonna show up!!!
* ** looks like we will be throwing next week's party for the Planet ED. Will check the stats every Monday, who ever gets the chance to post Kudo King/Queen of the week, can update it first. I hope not imposing on anyone if you feel like doing this. Sort of fun to see how things go each week ***
IMO, that'll be asking for more discord amongst the forums...Kudos are already a sore spot for many. 
I am just stating a fact, but it's not my decision to make.
Planet-Ed wrote:Accepted Solutions on the other hand are more defined as its only the person that asked for help is giving it in response to those that actually helped. Although I have seen people assign Accepted Solutions to some answers that were not really answers, esp when they accepting their own post as the solution.
I agree, Accepted Solutions show more help that has been received and overall, the correct answer to the original question. I have also seen people assign the wrong solutions, for which should be undone and the correct solution highlighted instead. (It would help other users to find the same information much easier). I find it silly when the original poster accepts their own post as the solution instead of others' posts/advice. Of course, the OP could be right, but I sometimes find it a bit selfish and greedy to do so - I don't really know why. It's almost as if "What was the point of posting your question if you have already found the answer?" You know what I mean?
On the other hand, I am "pro-Kudo". I find Kudos essential as helpfulness, also. Kudos demonstrates which users have been helpful and have offered good or acceptable advice. As stated in the Guidelines/Help section, they are quoted as you are giving a "pat on the back to the author" for their advice. Although, I have seen Kudos carelessly used, for not even ten letter posts and such being Kudoed. I do not find that helpful to others, especially if it's only a few words...
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Ann154 wrote:
This was I was referring to. Solutions, posts of the week get recognized first and top kudos earners get recorded too.
http://forums.verizon.com/t5/Recognition-Room/MVP-List-35-February-27th-through-March-5th/td-p/29015 ...
One with the number of solutions in a month.
http://forums.verizon.com/t5/Recognition-Room/Top-Accepted-Solutions-for-February-2011/td-p/287663
Another variation
http://community.vzw.com/t5/Best-of-the-Best/Best-of-the-Best-Week-28/td-p/453152
That would be pretty neat to have, wouldn't it? I think recognition helps encourage helpful users strive to do their best. They are also setting a good example for the Community and making people happy.
I wouldn't mind having something like this.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Wireless used to have something like this in the past? It was in the form of a weekly post?
With all the changes lately, I thought we had Recent Solutions on each forum's landing page?
But it's not there now.
Don't forget that this would require a Mod/Admin. to compile the stats and open/close posts. If they were doing it in the past, I'm guessing it was time-consuming, or there was a reason it didn't work out.
But I suppose if members want to start threads and keep track of stats, there's no objection?
I know this won't fly over on the UV side.
spd2demun wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Wireless used to have something like this in the past? It was in the form of a weekly post?
With all the changes lately, I thought we had Recent Solutions on each forum's landing page?
But it's not there now.
Don't forget that this would require a Mod/Admin. to compile the stats and open/close posts. If they were doing it in the past, I'm guessing it was time-consuming, or there was a reason it didn't work out.
But I suppose if members want to start threads and keep track of stats, there's no objection?
I know this won't fly over on the UV side.
You're correct - the CLs did used to publish such a "newsletter" and it seemed well received by the community. However, it was a LOT of work on the part of those compiling it - as there weren't any "automated" stats available for our use. A few CLs prepared it a number of times and then it fell by the wayside. Also unless the group preparing it frequents all boards between themselves, imo it didn't necessarily present a very well balanced perspective of the period's activity.
Here is an example of what we were doing back then:
I agree that the highlighting of "Accepted Solutions" needs to be brought back - as I've said before, I believe it is far more useful than Kudos, which can be so readily abused. At least there are some controls over Accepted Solutions, and users can ask a moderator to look at an Accepted Solution for marking/unmarking if they feel it should be marked as a solution or that the OP has selected an inappropriate post. AFAIK, that kind of moderation oversight is not in force re: kudos and so they are relatively meaningless. And it's just my opinion, but if you have these kinds of stats available on the home page and each category page (both from an author based and post based perspective), then I'm not sure how much additional value a "newsletter" type post really brings. Just my two cents though......
Wild Banchi wrote:
Planet-Ed wrote:Accepted Solutions on the other hand are more defined as its only the person that asked for help is giving it in response to those that actually helped. Although I have seen people assign Accepted Solutions to some answers that were not really answers, esp when they accepting their own post as the solution.
I agree, Accepted Solutions show more help that has been received and overall, the correct answer to the original question. I have also seen people assign the wrong solutions, for which should be undone and the correct solution highlighted instead. (It would help other users to find the same information much easier). I find it silly when the original poster accepts their own post as the solution instead of others' posts/advice. Of course, the OP could be right, but I sometimes find it a bit selfish and greedy to do so - I don't really know why. It's almost as if "What was the point of posting your question if you have already found the answer?" You know what I mean?
I think it is perfectly fine for someone to mark their own post as a solution if it is the solution.
On the other hand, I am "pro-Kudo".
If those few letters or words are accurate and helpful, it's as deserving of a kudo as anything. lol. Personally, I wouldn't find "acceptable" advice worthy of a kudo, but to each their own.
hme83 wrote:
Wild Banchi wrote:
Planet-Ed wrote:Accepted Solutions on the other hand are more defined as its only the person that asked for help is giving it in response to those that actually helped. Although I have seen people assign Accepted Solutions to some answers that were not really answers, esp when they accepting their own post as the solution.
I agree, Accepted Solutions show more help that has been received and overall, the correct answer to the original question. I have also seen people assign the wrong solutions, for which should be undone and the correct solution highlighted instead. (It would help other users to find the same information much easier). I find it silly when the original poster accepts their own post as the solution instead of others' posts/advice. Of course, the OP could be right, but I sometimes find it a bit selfish and greedy to do so - I don't really know why. It's almost as if "What was the point of posting your question if you have already found the answer?" You know what I mean?
I think it is perfectly fine for someone to mark their own post as a solution if it is the solution.
On the other hand, I am "pro-Kudo".
If those few letters or words are accurate and helpful, it's as deserving of a kudo as anything. lol. Personally, I wouldn't find "acceptable" advice worthy of a kudo, but to each their own.
While I partially agree with the OP accepting their own post as the "solution", it still doesn't really change my outlook much on why they posted the question in the first place. I suppose that's just me. I mean, I can understand that if they posted a question looking for an answer to be provided other than their own, and did some research an hour or two later and found the solution by themself, then accepting their own post as the "solution" would be acceptable. But it still kind of defeats the purpose of asking the original question, I think.
Finding the solution a couple of days to a week to a month later by themself would definitely be acceptable. That shows that they took their time to look up on research and have found the potential answer to their question. That, I can understand. But if they post the wrong or incorrect solution, that would not fly by with me, as it truly would not be the right answer if someone else were to stumble along the same problem somehow.
Now on to the "Kudo" portion. I have seen posts being continuously kudoed back and forth for very simple, three word answers. I have seen one where the OP was typing "LIKE THIS" the whole time in caps. Someone offered advice and the OP said "THANKS." Then the person that offered advice typed "YOU'RE WELCOME", as if to mock the OP. They then received a Kudo for that post, which I thought was pretty useless and not well-deserved...
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But don't forget how many times OPs do NOT Kudo or Accept-Solution; not to mention how many never say thanks, or that worked, or even come back to post what did work.
spd2demun wrote:But don't forget how many times OPs do NOT Kudo or Accept-Solution; not to mention how many never say thanks, or that worked, or even come back to post what did work.
You're right. I don't particularly like that about some people... I wish at least they would come back to post a thanks, advice, or whatever else they may need to say. I have participated in PLENTY of threads where the OP asked a question, I gave my answer/opinion, and I never knew (or probably will know) if it worked or not.
There was just a thread in the Pantech Board where the OP had JUST freshly posted a question, and I gave an answer within five minutes. She then checked my post as the "Accepted Solution" AND even said a thank you. That's what I like to see!
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In a perfect forum-world.
spd2demun wrote:In a perfect forum-world.
For the second or third time, you are correct...
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hme83 wrote:You're correct - the CLs did used to publish such a "newsletter" and it seemed well received by the community. However, it was a LOT of work on the part of those compiling it - as there weren't any "automated" stats available for our use. A few CLs prepared it a number of times and then it fell by the wayside. Also unless the group preparing it frequents all boards between themselves, imo it didn't necessarily present a very well balanced perspective of the period's activity.
Here is an example of what we were doing back then:
That's exactly what came to mind when I saw this thread as well, the newsletter that CL's used to put together. The newsletter was work to keep up and it seemed like CL's were busy at that time.
The Moderators and Management have no problem if you guys want to make Top Kudos of the week threads, they just need to be user created, like this one.
Sounds very interesting, and you have my approval. I'm sure it would be a "fun" thing for all of us... It would be neat to do such a thing, especially to see it change every week, but that depends on who gets the most...
If we were to have a recognition like this, I would not like to see a "drastic" increase in kudoed posts. This new idea should not affect who the person would be every week. It should just be a simple "congratulations". Nothing more than that. I don't want to see people going "kudo crazy" trying to get on the "best list".
Along with kudos, I think there should be some recognition for the most weekly "Accepted Solutions". That would be more of a personal-achievement based on a person's help/correct answer, rather than just a "pat on the back" for good advice.
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RicoLX wrote:
I looked up the link. I had no idea we were so close in similarity to what the Admins were doing back when. You guys can probably tell that I was looking for reezins to throw more "virtual online parties"
Oh, most definitely! They are always a bunch of fun, anyway - animated smiley icons, lots of laughs, an just an overall good time! I sure enjoy them.
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Wild Banchi wrote:
hme83 wrote:
Wild Banchi wrote:I agree, Accepted Solutions show more help that has been received and overall, the correct answer to the original question. I have also seen people assign the wrong solutions, for which should be undone and the correct solution highlighted instead. (It would help other users to find the same information much easier). I find it silly when the original poster accepts their own post as the solution instead of others' posts/advice. Of course, the OP could be right, but I sometimes find it a bit selfish and greedy to do so - I don't really know why. It's almost as if "What was the point of posting your question if you have already found the answer?" You know what I mean?
I think it is perfectly fine for someone to mark their own post as a solution if it is the solution.
On the other hand, I am "pro-Kudo".
If those few letters or words are accurate and helpful, it's as deserving of a kudo as anything. lol. Personally, I wouldn't find "acceptable" advice worthy of a kudo, but to each their own.
While I partially agree with the OP accepting their own post as the "solution", it still doesn't really change my outlook much on why they posted the question in the first place. I suppose that's just me. I mean, I can understand that if they posted a question looking for an answer to be provided other than their own, and did some research an hour or two later and found the solution by themself, then accepting their own post as the "solution" would be acceptable. But it still kind of defeats the purpose of asking the original question, I think.
Finding the solution a couple of days to a week to a month later by themself would definitely be acceptable. That shows that they took their time to look up on research and have found the potential answer to their question. That, I can understand. But if they post the wrong or incorrect solution, that would not fly by with me, as it truly would not be the right answer if someone else were to stumble along the same problem somehow.
Now on to the "Kudo" portion.
I guess I just see it as there are two types of people - some enjoy the more "public" recognition of ranks, kudos, accepted solutions more than others do. Others enjoy simply participating, providing information, and hoping they've helped someone along the way. So long as a "solution" is actually a solution, I don't care who provided it or "when" - original OP, other user, or even an at&t customer service rep - as in my mind, the important thing is to help others who may be having the same/similar issue find options for solving their problem.
I hear you re: the kudos - as I've seen members state they give kudos to show they are having fun. The only beneficial thing kudos provides over the "accepted solution", imo is the ability for a non-OP to indicate a particular post helped them; but in my opinion, kudos should be subject to the same moderation oversight that accepted solutions are - otherwise they are virtually meaningless.
