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quakatack
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How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

Again, not sure If this fits In here.

 

Being fairly new to AT&T and having almost signed with them In the past when prices were much more reasonable, I wonder how long It will be before AT&T Is competitive In the markets they serve again.

 

As of right now I'm being charged 220 for what amounts to basic tv service, that being U200 triple pack with HBO/HD.

 

I can get cable with the same package with faster Internet(18Mb) for 150$, so how does AT&T figure they are worth 70$ more? Also, you can get Fios for 109$ for the same package (actually theirs Is better) that AT&T charges 220 for? Dish cheaper,DTV cheaper.

 

Can anyone explain to me why AT&T Is so much higher than It's competitors, they did not used to be, they used to be cheaper.

 

 

 

 

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dave006
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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

That's the nice thing about choice. You seem to have a choice of AT&T U-verse or Cable and based on the rates you posted it does sound like it would be cheaper for you to choose Cable.

 

U-verse does not have any contracts so you can just switch to Cable and then cancel U-verse. However, I will ask, why did you chose U-verse if the price is too high?

 

In my case the difference between U-verse and Cable was only $4.00 per month and I like the reliability of AT&T over the Comcast service we have in our local market.

 

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

Would like to see a price breakdown of your monthly bill since $220 does seem awfully high.

 

Know that U200 starts at $67/month, $10 for HD service, maybe $10 for HBO, If you have Max12 should be paying $45 (not $55 and you can get this reduced by calling) and Voice should be about $38 a month. This totals $170/month plus surcharges/fees/taxes. How many extra STB's do you have at $7/month?

 

Are you also taking into consideration/subtracting any rewards/discounts you received when you signed up? Also wonder if phone service is included in those cable prices?

 

As Dave006 said there are no contracts so you can cancel and change to a lower priced service anytime you want.

 

Just hope you're comparing "apples to apples" with these other services that are $70 less per month. Would also bet that the surcharges/fees/taxes are not included in the $150 price you quoted. Is the equipment free or do you have to buy it/pay rental charges?

 

Good luck and it would be interesting to see an itemized price breakdown of your $220 bill.


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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

I find it shocking at how many people just assume everyone else is stupid. Goto TWC or Comcast web page and look at their national advertised specials. Forget the local special which in some cases are even cheaper than national advertised special.

 

This has been discussed to death on both here and DSLreports.com forums.

 

Both TWC and Comcast have a national promo which requires no contract to be signed which offer Digital cable + 10-20meg internet speeds(depending on your local area) + 1 phone line for $89.99 for 12 month then goes to normal price which is $119.99. This offer includes no cable boxes at all and Digital cable package is comparable to U-200+ HD enabling fee which which basically costs you $77.99 on U-Verse but will include 1 Dvr which costs $15.99-17.99 on cable.  So even factoring in the price of 1 DVR into the above package with most expensive local area that still runs you $107.99 vs some thing comparable on U-Verse would run you $132.99 based on the current promo from U-Verse which is $77.99(TV)+$55 Max Plus+35 U-Voice -$35 per month. And after 6 months that rates goes up to $167.99. I know many people who over the last 6 months signed up for U-Verse just because of the Gift Cards and then canceled and went back to cable because it was much cheaper on ongoing. Then both Comcast and TWC offer for $109.99 with a 2 year contract same package as above but include showtime, TMC, Encore for 12 month which can be removed after 12 months and 1 Dvr and 1 HD box. Then my local promo upgrades you from 1 DVR to 2 DVR for additional costs if you agree to 2 year promo and are switching back from U-Verse or Fios to TWC.

 

 

U-Verse pricing is flawed as ATT pricing is based on the assumption that everyone just straight up buys their services ala cart. And no one is willing to sign contracts and so Direct TV and Dish Network do not exist.  In most parts of the country ATT offers no true value to bundling services like Fios or Cable companies. I know many people who had canceled land line phone service years ago and because it is cheaper to take a bundle from TWC and Fios which includes landline phone service now have landline phones service again.

 

When ATT compares prices in fliers they always tend to compare their price to having 3 DVR with TWC locally vs U-Verse Total DVR + 2 boxes except they fail to mention that with 3 DVR from TWC you can record 6 HD channels at the same time or watch 3 different HD channels at the same time vs U-Verse DVR can record a max of 2HD channels and you are limited to 3HD/1SD streams per household if you are lucky and have 3HD/1SD profile otherwise you are still on 2HD/2SD profile or worse. In all honesty that is like saying a Toyota will take you from point A to point B just like a Mercedes but both are not comparable or priced the same. The fact remains cable does not have any of the limitation that U-Verse has when it comes to total streams per household as you are only limited by your boxes and U-Verse extra STB can not pause live tv either like cable DVR so in all honesty you are not comparing comparable services either. ATT fliers make it sound like you are getting a better deal on U-Verse over cable but a more fair comparison would be price both services using 1 DVR and 2 HD STB on both services then cable is cheaper and is still able to watch more HD and total streams with only advantage U-Verse having is ability to share a common DVR which can be access from multiple rooms which for households with 1-2 person with more than 1 TV could be worthwhile as that would allow them to cut down on the number of DVR's but for most families with 3 or more people in the household and more than 2 TV U-Verse has serious limitation so that savings is coming at a costs which ATT does not advertise and sticks it in the fine print at the bottom of the flier.

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

The one thing I notice about all posts in this vein is that the U-verse prices that are posted always seem to include taxes/fees/etc. and the competitors prices are their advertised prices.  Since these tend to add 15% or more to your bill, it makes for apples and oranges comparison.

 

 

 

One bit of disingeniousness in dolmar's posting I'd like to point out is this: 

 


dolmar wrote:

...

 

 

 

Both TWC and Comcast have a national promo which requires no contract to be signed which offer Digital cable + 10-20meg internet speeds(depending on your local area) + 1 phone line for $89.99 for 12 month then goes to normal price which is $119.99. This offer includes no cable boxes at all and Digital cable package is comparable to U-200+ HD enabling fee which which basically costs you $77.99 on U-Verse but will include 1 Dvr which costs $15.99-17.99 on cable. ...


 

Digital cable with no boxes?  Unless TWC and Comcast are using Clear-QAM (where I know that Charter is encrypting every channel but the PBS channels) and your digital TV understands Clear-QAM, Digital Cable without a box isn't worth a whole lot.

 

 

 


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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 


JefferMC wrote:

 

Digital cable with no boxes?  Unless TWC and Comcast are using Clear-QAM (where I know that Charter is encrypting every channel but the PBS channels) and your digital TV understands Clear-QAM, Digital Cable without a box isn't worth a whole lot.


Agreed.  In Houston you cannot get digital cable from Comcast without set-top boxes.  I can't even find the pricing for set-top boxes on the Comcast site, they hide all charges from you until you get your bill.  But I'm sure they're between $7 and $10 per box per month.

 

 

 

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

Hold on a sec, I said you need to pay for DVR which are $15-18 each and HD standard boxes are $8. No where did I say you do not need cable boxes, I even said U-Verse compares their prices to TWC locally in fliers where they claim to be cheaper than TWC based on the fact TWC price includes 3 DVR's and I said a more fair comparison would have been to compare U-Verse with 1 DVR and 2 HD STB. 

 

No where did I say you do not need cable boxes and no where did I quote U-Verse after tax price to TWC before tax price.All the prices I quoted were before tax. So JefferMC if you want to be disingenuousness please explain where I did say you did not need cable boxes at all, I listed the price for the boxes even listed the 2 year contract price which includes 2 boxes etc. In the $89.99 price point no boxes is included at all for free. That is no different that U-Verse prices which include 1 box so if you need more than 1 box for 1 tv then you pay extra.  But go ahead and build a U-Verse bundle and compare it to Cable and add boxes unless you do the same thing as U-Verse does locally and build a bundle with TWC using 3 DVR and compare it to U-verse "limited 6 month promo price" no way U-Verse is cheaper. In ATT fliers they keep sending in the mail every week on Wednesday they are only claiming to be $15 cheaper than TWC and they also use Max internet plan which is 12megs vs TWC locally gives you 15meg service. If you drop TWC to 1 DVR and 2 HD boxes then TWC is $8 per month cheaper than even the limited 6 month promo and once U-Verse goes off promo they are over $40 per month cheaper and if you agree to 2 year contract with TWC then they are even cheaper as TWC is giving you a package comparable to U-300 TV.

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

One more thing, the fact ATT Pots bundle using same U-Verse Internet, Direct TV and ATT pots line are cheaper than U-Verse triple bundle tells you that U-Verse TV is over priced and gives no bundle discounts either like ATT Pots $10 per month bundle discount.

 

The only advantage U-Verse has over Direct TV is no contract requirement but unless you think U-Verse is bad then signing a contract should not be an issue at all anyways. Personally I prefer to have $200-300 a year in my pocket over paying it to ATT just so I can say, I do not have a contract but I stayed with you for same 1 year period.

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

Since AT&T has been cheaper until recently, and this is a new national pricing for the cable companies, it seems to me the question is phrased incorrectly.  It seems to me that the cable companies are finally becoming competitive.  They were not competitive previously.  The mere presence of AT&T in the marketplace has forced them to be more competitive.  If AT&T starts losing ground and they want to keep it, they will have to respond at some point.  The question is, will they lose ground?  If I am a representative customer, the others would have to be a lot cheaper for me to even consider switching, but I appreciate the fact that the competition is there!

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 


dolbycm wrote:

Since AT&T has been cheaper until recently, and this is a new national pricing for the cable companies, it seems to me the question is phrased incorrectly.  It seems to me that the cable companies are finally becoming competitive.  They were not competitive previously.  The mere presence of AT&T in the marketplace has forced them to be more competitive.  If AT&T starts losing ground and they want to keep it, they will have to respond at some point.  The question is, will they lose ground?  If I am a representative customer, the others would have to be a lot cheaper for me to even consider switching, but I appreciate the fact that the competition is there!


 

 

ATT U-Verse has never cheaper than the cable companies bundles. As a matter of fact ATT own bundles using Pots and sat and any internet ATT offers is cheaper and has always been cheaper than local companies ala cart pricing. The cable companies have recently come out with bundles which are considerable cheaper than ala cart price. Those bundles are in response to Fios bundled pricing as they are using the same price points as Fios and have nothing to do with ATT otherwise they would have picked a price comparable to ATT U-Verse which they clearly did not. The reason they are advertising national promo now based on Fios pricing in both ATT and Verizon area's could also be a result of them trying to maintain their current customers and could also be based on ATT U-Verse deployment but clearly it has nothing to do with ATT U-Verse pricing practices.

 

ATT response to cable bundles is make unfair comparisons and hide in the fine the print the fact those unfair comparisons are based on limited time 6 months promo and after that period the prices becomes more than cable companies bundles or based on the fact they think no one need more than 2 or 3 HD streams per household, you can not pause live tv on their STB and their total DVR with a max of 2 HD streams is comparable to 3 cable DVR which they are not.

 

Hence ATT current path of thinking all consumers are stupid to stay with ATT after their limited time promo is flawed. ATT continues to purse a strategy where they assume everyone wants ala cart pricing and refuses to sign a contract and price their service based on small rural america cable companies or smaller cable companies vs the big boys pricing.

 

Their U-Verse strategy is no different than their cell phone strategy. Never lower your price or set market prices but follow the market leader ie in the cellphone industry ever notice how ATT always match Verizon and not the other way around? Unless ATT starts to loose customers on U-Verse or smaller cable companies start to match both Fios and the 2 big cable companies bundles ATT will continue with the current pricing strategy which is basically write off any area where cable companies price is much cheaper than our and if the customers complains or threatens to cancel offer then a much cheaper comparable bundle using pots service which compete with local cable company.

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

dolmar wrote:

 

Hence ATT current path of thinking all consumers are stupid to stay with ATT after their limited time promo is flawed. ATT continues to purse a strategy where they assume everyone wants ala cart pricing and refuses to sign a contract and price their service based on small rural america cable companies or smaller cable companies vs the big boys pricing.


Interesting comment. 

 

Not being a U-verse TV customer, aren't you getting tired of posting messages on all different forums in an attempt to convince strangers that they should not subscribe to U-verse TV?

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 


texasguy37 wrote:
Not being a U-verse TV customer, aren't you getting tired of posting messages on all different forums in an attempt to convince strangers that they should not subscribe to U-verse TV?

 

 

Are you tired of making assumptions based on the fact that charter cable short comings of lack of HD TV channels and bundle pricing is the same as every other cable company? Are you tired of ignoring or pretending that ATT own Sat, pot and internet bundles are cheaper than their own U-Verse Bundles? Does it bother you that someone who canceled U-Verse TV express their own opinion on why I canceled or are people who canceled U-Verse TV and did not sign up for U-Verse voice not allowed to have an opinion? Does it bother you ever time someone complains about U-Verse Price I point out the fact Fios and TWC and Comcast bundles are all significantly less than comparable U-Verse Bundles? 

 

You might want to ask your self why it bothers you so much if people express their opinions which might be different than your own which are factually correct. Are you an ATT employee who is worried about his job? Thinking if ATT was to ever try to compete on price they might have to trim the fat on some of their bloated employee's thus meaning you might be out of a job and the only reason you currently have a job is based on the fact ATT U-Verse pricing is so bloated it allows for a bloated employee base?

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

dolmar wrote:

 

Are you tired of making assumptions based on the fact that charter cable short comings of lack of HD TV channels and bundle pricing is the same as every other cable company? Are you tired of ignoring or pretending that ATT own Sat, pot and internet bundles are cheaper than their own U-Verse Bundles? Does it bother you that someone who canceled U-Verse TV express their own opinion on why I canceled or are people who canceled U-Verse TV and did not sign up for U-Verse voice not allowed to have an opinion? Does it bother you ever time someone complains about U-Verse Price I point out the fact Fios and TWC and Comcast bundles are all significantly less than comparable U-Verse Bundles? 

 

You might want to ask your self why it bothers you so much if people express their opinions which might be different than your own which are factually correct. Are you an ATT employee who is worried about his job? Thinking if ATT was to ever try to compete on price they might have to trim the fat on some of their bloated employee's thus meaning you might be out of a job and the only reason you currently have a job is based on the fact ATT U-Verse pricing is so bloated it allows for a bloated employee base?


I love it that when anyone who does not follow someone else's negative viewpoint is labeled an AT&T employee!

 

I am afraid that you have me confused with someone else.  You will not find one single message that I have posted on this or any other forum where I have made any statements about U-verse pricing compared to any of it's competitors.  That is of no concern to me.  People will make up their own minds as to whether or not to subscribe to U-verse TV regardless of any opinion that I might offer. 

 

If you want to continue to post messages with the same theme on this and the other U-verse forums, go for it!  Knock yourself out.  One would only think that you might have more positive ways to spend your time instead spending all the time that you do trying to convince people to stay away from U-verse TV.  If you think that your messages are actually influencing anyone's decision to try U-verse, more power to you!

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 


texasguy37 wrote:

I love it that when anyone who does not follow someone else's negative viewpoint is labeled an AT&T employee!

 

 


 

I only asked if you were an ATT employee, I never said you were and considering you have more than 200x as many posts as me on both here and dslreports.com i think clearly shows you spend more time trying to connivence people that U-Verse bundles have real value or are better than competitors over the time I spend expression my opinion.

 

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

dolmar wrote:

 

I only asked if you were an ATT employee, I never said you were and considering you have more than 200x as many posts as me on both here and dslreports.com i think clearly shows you spend more time trying to connivence people that U-Verse bundles have real value or are better than competitors over the time I spend expression my opinion. 


I do not visit the forums in an attempt to convince anyone of anything about U-verse.  I visit the forums to help users with issues and questions so that they can get the most out of their service.  I also visit the forums to learn more about the service myself.  Utalk is a "peer to peer" forum for U-verse customers.

 

People can make up their own mind about U-verse.  I don't need to try to convince them of anything.

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 


dolmar wrote:

 

I only asked if you were an ATT employee, I never said you were and considering you have more than 200x as many posts as me on both here and dslreports.com i think clearly shows you spend more time trying to connivence people that U-Verse bundles have real value or are better than competitors over the time I spend expression my opinion.


 

 

So now you claim that TexasGuy has posted >2400 posts, and you have read all of them in enough detail to succinctly summarize the aggregate post content of all of them.

 

First, that's a preposterous claim.  Second, even if it were true, then that truly proves who is spending time doing what, doesn't it?

 

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 



So now you claim that TexasGuy has posted >2400 posts, and you have read all of them in enough detail to succinctly summarize the aggregate post content of all of them.

 

First, that's a preposterous claim.  Second, even if it were true, then that truly proves who is spending time doing what, doesn't it?

 


 

Wow another poster who attacks anyone who does not agree with their personal view. I never said I read all his posts, I just stated a fact that has posted over 200x as many posts as I have posted, so I find it funny he states I am waisting my time but he does not consider himself as waisting his own time when clearly he spends more time than I do posting about what he think about U-Verse or helping people on u-verse boards compared to myself. He clearly thinks I am waisting what ever time I spend which has to be much less time than him considering he posts over 200x as many messages as I do and he clearly thinks I have no right to express my own opinion nor do other who do not share his own view.

 

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

Personally, when I am not happy with a service to the point that I dropped it and picked up another service, I don't look back.  I move on.  No point in beating a dead horse.  What would I gain from beating that dead horse if I did beat that dead horse?  Nothing, of course because a dead horse is a dead horse, of course of course.......

 


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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

click_clack wrote:

Personally, when I am not happy with a service to the point that I dropped it and picked up another service, I don't look back.  I move on.  No point in beating a dead horse.  What would I gain from beating that dead horse if I did beat that dead horse?  Nothing, of course because a dead horse is a dead horse, of course of course.......

 

 

I only continue to read U-Verse boards because I have U-Verse internet as I am on an ATT Pots bundle which includes ATT satellite, ATT Pots service and ATT U-Verse internet. Personally I would like to know when ATT offers Max Turbo and if ATT U-Verse ever offers a bundle cheaper than what I have, I would consider it. And once my contract is over with ATT/Dish in Aug I will be figuring out what I will be doing. Currently the way ATT pricing stands, I will not consider ATT U-Verse as an option, I continue to weigh switching to Direct TV or going to cable which would mean I would cancel ATT phone and internet.

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

Don't know if ATT is still doing it, but they had been waiving the early termination fee for Dish if going to UV.  If you decided to not stay with UV, would they then made you pay the ETF?  I dunno.

 

Have you called to explain your situation and see if they can cut you a deal?  Just a thought.

 

Know you're still wanting Max18, but think they are still doing the $30 POTS LD if you have UV (sans local taxes/fees).

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 


spd2demun wrote:

Don't know if ATT is still doing it, but they had been waiving the early termination fee for Dish if going to UV.  If you decided to not stay with UV, would they then made you pay the ETF?  I dunno.

 

Have you called to explain your situation and see if they can cut you a deal?  Just a thought.

 

Know you're still wanting Max18, but think they are still doing the $30 POTS LD if you have UV (sans local taxes/fees).

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I have talked to ATT CS even they admit I am better off staying with ATT Dish till my contract expires on Aug 1, as I am paying $62.99(Top 250 and first DVR) $10 HD fee which includes Platinum HD for channels like HDNET and HDNET Movies etc which are same as HD extra tier for $5 on U-Verse TV, $7 for 2nd DVR till my contract expires at which time it goes up by $14 for 2nd DVR($8 per month increase in the lease fee and no longer will be getting free DVR promo either) and I have $25 per month off my bill each month till my contract expires, $10 from ATT for having Pots, Internet and TV bundled and $15 from DIsh so my cost is $54.99 plus tax which is under $1 in tax as the only tax on my dish bill is for the 2nd leased reciever. Comparable U-Verse Plan would be U-Verse 300 + HD fee + HD Extra + 2nd STB which comes out to $104.99 and the difference is $50 per month after the 6 month promo and $15 per month durning the promo as you get a $35 credit per month for 6 months only. ATT $10 off my bill per month for Pots Bundle is forever as long as I maintain all 3 services.
I Pay $35 per month for my Telephone from ATT pots as I had ATT ALL DISTANCE advantage 3 before I got U-Verse internet back in Nov and I now have ATT ALL Distance U-Verse same thing different name only, I pay $35 per month based on the fact I have voicemail which is not included in the $30 a month ALL Distance package. I get unified message center for that extra $5 bucks a month.
I have Max Plus ie the 18/1.5 meg plan, I want max Turbo which is 24/3 meg plan.
ATT Pots bundles allow you bundle any ATT high speed internet service ie DSL or U-Verse with any Pots line and currently Direct TV. After my promo expires on Dish if I am unable to get a new promo from Dish I can order ATT Direct TV service and continue my current bundle and comparable Direct TV plan is $56.99 for the first 12 months and then goes to $81.99 per month for the next 12 month and I would get $150 gift card which covers the $99 costs of the 2nd DVR. So over the term of 2 years I would save $24 a month for 12 month and $48 per month for 12 months meaning having an ATT Pots bundle for comparable service is $864 cheaper over that 2 years. I would not have no limitation like total streams per household etc and each Direct TV dvr can record 2 local and 2 HD Sat streams per box just like Dish network DVR. I am using the same internet service as U-Verse and ATT pots service is more reliable than U-Voice with only disadvantage being I do not get free calls to Canada which for me is not a big deal as I do not call Canada anyways.
If I went with TWC 2 year contract price, I would pay $155.97 for comparable service which under ATT/Dish network is costing me $139.99. But once my contract is over with Dish my price will be increasing by 14 from new DVR price + my $15 off per month will also expire making my new price higher than cable ie $168.99 and with TWC I would get Showtime and TMC for free for 1 year which I currently do not have nor would I have it under ATT U-Verse either. ATT Direct TV current price for a comparable bundle would come out to be cheaper $3 cheaper than TWC on year 1 but on year two my price would be $23 per month more. ATT U-Verse comparable service would end up $40 more than TWC after the 6 month promo and durning the 6 month promo would still end up being $5 per month more than TWC.
That is why I think ATT U-Verse bundles add little to no value as I have no problem signing a contract to keep money in my pocket and anyone who can get U-Verse can get ATT Direct TV Pots bundle using U-Verse internet as long as they are on a max plan or higher otherwise they would have to use ATT DSL over ATT U-Verse for internet portion.

 

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Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

dolmar wrote:

 

Wow another poster who attacks anyone who does not agree with their personal view. I never said I read all his posts, I just stated a fact that has posted over 200x as many posts as I have posted, so I find it funny he states I am waisting my time but he does not consider himself as waisting his own time when clearly he spends more time than I do posting about what he think about U-Verse or helping people on u-verse boards compared to myself. He clearly thinks I am waisting what ever time I spend which has to be much less time than him considering he posts over 200x as many messages as I do and he clearly thinks I have no right to express my own opinion nor do other who do not share his own view.


Completely 100% wrong. 

 

You cannot accuse either Texasguy or myself of "attacking anyone who does not agree with their personal view".  That is a ridiculous and false claim.  Nowhere has anyone, including Texasguy and myself, ever told you that you don't have a right to express your view.  What we have told you is that we disagree with certain points of your view.  We have just as much right to take a different viewpoint as you do.

 

You blantantly accused both Texasguy and myself of this with these statements:

 


"you spend more time trying to connivence people that U-Verse bundles have real value or are better than competitors"

 

"Wow another poster who attacks anyone who does not agree with their personal view."


 

Where is your evidence that Texasguy spends all his time trying to convince people about the real value of U-Verse bundles?  What posts (of his 2400) did he say this in?  The truth is that you cannot answer that question, because you haven't read any of his posts except the ones in this thread.  You are just throwing out wild accusations that have no basis in fact.  You are a liar.

 

Where is your evidence that I attack anyone who doesn't agree with my personal view?  What posts of mine illustrate this?  You cannot answer that question either, because it's another wild accusation that again has no basis in fact.  Again you are a liar.

 

You have no credibility here.  Everything you say is tainted because of these ridiculous false claims.  It is pointless to attempt to discuss the actual issue here (value of U-Verse bundles) with you, because you will simply say anything, false or not, to attempt to prove your point.  The facts and the truth are irrelevant to you.

 

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.
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dolmar_1
Posts: 95
Registered: ‎12-20-2009
Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

WOW, 

 

 

 

You SomeJoe777 translate that to mean," Hey we never attacked you" yet both of you did,  Both of you attacked my posts because you think I have no right to make posts on U-Verse boards because either I do not have U-Verse TV or cause my view do not agree with your own otherwise you would not be singling me for correct the "misinformation" both you and JefferMC tried to pull which would be no different than anyone saying for example well U-Verse does not work without boxes so the $67.99 price is bs cause I have 8 TV.

 

No need to response Somejoke777 as I will no longer respond to anyone of you comment. You can continue to say whatever you want but trust me cause of idiots like you, I will continue to post and agree any point out to people that U-Verse pricing is flawed. 

 

P.S. Texasguy I have nothing against you or anyone else, SomeJoe777 you are a moron and leave me alone.

SomeJoe7777
Posts: 9,351
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Registered: ‎01-30-2008
Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

The original point and discussion of the thread is moot now.  You have taken the thread into wild claim territory with your ridiculous falsehoods, you are no longer even discussing the original issue.

 

No one here attacked you for any other issue than the central problem here: You make false, wild claims about other people without any facts and without citing any examples.  I will not allow you to get away with that.  You will prove your points or I will continue calling you out.

 

For the record, I have indeed read every last one of Texasguy's posts.  I have read every post on this forum since i joined, and since Texasguy joined after me, there is no post of his that I have not read.  You can verify this by clicking on my name and looking at my statistics on the right where it says Total Messages Read.  At this moment, it is nearly half a million.

 

Either post truthful information without accusing other people of actions they did not take, or leave.  If you don't, I will continue pointing out every lie you tell.

 

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.
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TreyMW
Posts: 706
Registered: ‎09-30-2009
Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 


dolmar wrote:

WOW, 

 

 

 

You SomeJoe777 translate that to mean," Hey we never attacked you" yet both of you did,  Both of you attacked my posts because you think I have no right to make posts on U-Verse boards because either I do not have U-Verse TV or cause my view do not agree with your own otherwise you would not be singling me for correct the "misinformation" both you and JefferMC tried to pull which would be no different than anyone saying for example well U-Verse does not work without boxes so the $67.99 price is bs cause I have 8 TV.

 

No need to response Somejoke777 as I will no longer respond to anyone of you comment. You can continue to say whatever you want but trust me cause of idiots like you, I will continue to post and agree any point out to people that U-Verse pricing is flawed. 

 

P.S. Texasguy I have nothing against you or anyone else, SomeJoe777 you are a moron and leave me alone.


 

 

Keep the personal attacks out of it.  You guys are free to debate all you want and talk trash about UVerse all you want, but I step in when the name-calling happens.  Stop it immediately or warnings will be issued. 

 

Thanks. 

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bri_man_65
Posts: 368
Registered: ‎09-21-2007
Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

 



Keep the personal attacks out of it.  You guys are free to debate all you want and talk trash about UVerse all you want, but I step in when the name-calling happens.  Stop it immediately or warnings will be issued. 

 

Thanks. 


Was that a warning  that warnings will be issued?   :smileytongue:

 

 

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TreyMW
Posts: 706
Registered: ‎09-30-2009
Re: How long before Uverse Is competitive again?

LOL!  Yes, I guess so!